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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    ...you know there is no ban on gays serving in the military, right?

    If there wasn't, then gays wouldn't get discharged for being gay. It's called Defense Directive 1332, which bans gays from serving in the armed forces.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreReborn View Post
    Oh, I thought you said was for it. Got ya...
    Everyone seems to be getting that wrong, for some reason.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    ...you know there is no ban on gays serving in the military, right?
    It is in the regulations. DADT repeal has to remove that section. I forget the number, apdst I think knows the number off the top of the head.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If there wasn't, then gays wouldn't get discharged for being gay. It's called Defense Directive 1332, which bans gays from serving in the armed forces.
    Under DADT, they do not get discharged for being gay, they get discharged for violating DADT, ie telling.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's a whole different story when it's not your ass on the line and not one of your comrades. The whole, "band of brothers", thing and all. Ya know?
    Really? It's my butt on the line, as you put it, if they send me IA in the reserves. It is my husband's butt on the line, seeing as how he is active duty. I am completely willing to take the chance that I nor he will be killed because DADT was repealed. In fact, if he or I get sent IA, I promise that I will still support the repeal, whether it has happened by then or not.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No. Because the military should not be promoting any type of intolerance or discrimination. And, your earlier suggestion that troops simply be ordered to not be allowed to talk about their sexuality/significant others/relationships will not work.
    Hence the neccissity for DADT to remain in place and do away with the ban on gays.

    You can try to get it through all you want, but it won't happen.
    It'll happen unofficially. Like it or not, local commanders will institute their own watered down version of DADT, in the attempt to prevent discrimination. It'll be issued as a standing order, by the division commander and violation of that order will make a soldier subject to Article 192 of the UCMJ.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Really? It's my butt on the line, as you put it, if they send me IA in the reserves. It is my husband's butt on the line, seeing as how he is active duty. I am completely willing to take the chance that I nor he will be killed because DADT was repealed. In fact, if he or I get sent IA, I promise that I will still support the repeal, whether it has happened by then or not.
    Good for you. Which infantry unit are you in, BTW?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, I'm not.

    Have you ever served??
    It doesn't matter. Your ass isn't anymore on the line than mine is, so you have just as little to lose.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If there wasn't, then gays wouldn't get discharged for being gay. It's called Defense Directive 1332, which bans gays from serving in the armed forces.
    So, nope.

    Homosexual conduct is grounds for separation from the Military Services under the terms set forth in subparagraph 8.a.(2) of this enclosure.
    http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/c...df/133214p.pdf

    They don't ban gays.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Everyone seems to be getting that wrong, for some reason.
    Just a simple misread, it happens when I stay on here for too long, that mixed with a lack of sleep.

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