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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    Why should men have to deal with being hit on by women? Why should women have to deal with men hitting on them?

    I don't see how unwanted sexual advances are any worse then they're done by someone of the same sex.
    Many people have religious and moral objections to homosexuality. Fewer people think heterosexuality is morally wrong.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Many people have religious and moral objections to homosexuality. Fewer people think heterosexuality is morally wrong.
    Morality and religiosity are two entirely different things regardless of the religious' slanderous to the contrary. I know a hell of a lot people who claim religion that don't have a moral bone in their bodies, like lots of public politicians who like paiges and diapers and cheating on their dying wives. Contrarily I know atheists that are exceptionally moral.

    Surely you aren't so ignorant as to be stuck in this trap are you?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So how many times is enough for someone to be allowed to complain without being branded homophobic? "Multiple" would suggest at least three. What if the advances are physical in nature, rather than just "propositioning"?
    Reprimanding a gay person for sexual harassing someone isn't being homophobic. It is treating us the same, and that is all we want.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Reprimanding a gay person for sexual harassing someone isn't being homophobic. It is treating us the same, and that is all we want.
    Exactly. Sexual harrassment is sexual harrassment regardless of the genders involved. I think what it is that bothers folks like those above is that men in our society are not accustomed to being the object of sexual harrassment, and desire to remain in the position of being able to harrass (generally women) without the possibility that it could happen back to them (by men). They like their exclusive position of givers and rarely receivers. Also I notice that of those I know, men that are most concerned with this phantom sexual harrassment they fear they might receive if homosexuals are fairly and fully recognized anywhere, are the ones who are the most harrassing to women.

    Kind of like theives are the ones most concerned with being robbed because they fear everyone is like they are.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Many people have religious and moral objections to homosexuality. Fewer people think heterosexuality is morally wrong.
    I'm sure there's a significant number of soldiers who think Islam is morally wrong, does that mean we should kick all Muslims out of the military? I was hesitant in making this point because you probably do want them kicked out :/ Oh well.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Reprimanding a gay person for sexual harassing someone isn't being homophobic. It is treating us the same, and that is all we want.
    Be real, would you really ever take the word of a straight soldier over that of a gay one or would you more likely believe the straight soldier is just making up the harassment charge? Be honest, you all would rally around the gay soldier and call anyone who believed the straight soldier homophobic.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Be real, would you really ever take the word of a straight soldier over that of a gay one or would you more likely believe the straight soldier is just making up the harassment charge? Be honest, you all would rally around the gay soldier and call anyone who believed the straight soldier homophobic.
    Gee, you mean a straight man might have to go through the same BS that comes with disbelief that woman has to go through when she turns in a straight guy for harrassment? Oh, woe is me. I know now that you see that straight men are weak compared to women.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    I'm sure there's a significant number of soldiers who think Islam is morally wrong, does that mean we should kick all Muslims out of the military? I was hesitant in making this point because you probably do want them kicked out :/ Oh well.
    I would like to see the ones who want to shoot their fellow soldiers kicked out before they actually get to shoot up their fellow soldiers...but yeah, that's just me.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Be real, would you really ever take the word of a straight soldier over that of a gay one or would you more likely believe the straight soldier is just making up the harassment charge? Be honest, you all would rally around the gay soldier and call anyone who believed the straight soldier homophobic.
    Hey look, here are the straws your grasping at.


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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Gee, you mean a straight man might have to go through the same BS that comes with disbelief that woman has to go through when she turns in a straight guy for harrassment? Oh, woe is me. I know now that you see that straight men are weak compared to women.
    So you agree that I'm right then, you just think straight guys have it coming.

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