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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    The fact that it has been in place for 17 years without any evidence that DADT has caused any problems. It really is a simple question, military leaders have said there is a potential problem here so they admit there could be a problem, What happens if their is? Why is it you and other liberals can never accept the FACT that you just could be wrong on an issue? There are consequences for mistakes, are you willing to accept responsibility for yours?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I guess that's why the British Army has to ban together with gay rights groups, because there's so much gay tolerance within the ranks?
    Not alot of trouble, and solvable problems is not the same thing as no problem nor does it mean there is not room for improvement.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    [QUOTE=apdst;1059160760][QUOTE=roguenuke;1059160739]How does DADT prevent someone from finding out or even just suspecting that someone else in their unit is gay? Since DADT specifically states that a CO is the only person who can open an investigation into a person's sexuality, it is quite possible for someone to be almost openly gay (and in some places, even completely openly gay) without being discharged under DADT, especially in certain jobs.

    Obviously, nothing is fool-proof, however, I think it would go along way to lesson the shock of the transition.



    There's no way it can promote it, unless you're suggesting that the quicker we force soldiers to accept gay soldiers serving openly, the quicker we'll weed out the homophobes. More of the same ole, "in yo face", crap? Make them homophobes pay?





    My mistake.



    Not only that, convicted, or not, the case becomes a permanent part of a soldier's record, that will be seen everytime that he goes up for promotion.



    The ban on gays isn't fair. Leaving a modified version of DADT in place would make things more fair, after the ban has been lifted.





    You need to stop saying that everything is going to be fine, because real life tells us that it won't be.
    DADT, for the past 17 years, was the transition. There will be a bit more after its repeal, but it will be mostly in training and figuring out how to effectively handle those incidents that do arise when someone doesn't approve of another person being open about their sexuality. Not something that is insurmountable.

    And I haven't said that everything will be fine. What I have said numerous times, is that there will be some issues and problems that arise, but none of them will be as bad as you or others that are against repeal are making them out to be.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Evidence?

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    Evidence of what? A substandard officer?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Evidence of what? A substandard officer?
    Being gay makes you sub-standard now? Maybe that's why you think treating homosexuals like second class citizens is "not broken".
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Even without facts, opinions still matter in debate; why do you think evolutionists are allowed to debate here?
    While this is a whole other debate, evolution, while still a theory, is supported by huge amounts of scientific fact. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a theory, it would be a guess.

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    To the OP: I wouldn't have said "bad guys." "Misguided and amoral" would seem less inflammatory and appropriate imo.

    Among my reasons for supporting DADT, one would be based on what Britain is foinf to its troops. Forcing them to act as homosexuals. Are we naive enough to think that won't happen here? Perversion, at an intensifying rate, is why I support DADT.
    Once again, do you have anything close to proof? Homosexuals aren't perverts who want to rape you and turn you gay and indoctrinate children. I know many gay people, and am close friends with some and I'm sure they don't want to rape me and turn me gay. This bigoted claim that homosexuals are perverted sexual deviants is totally wrong.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Evidence of what? A substandard officer?
    No. He was a war hero. He happened to be gay and had his email hacked and read. They found he had sent emails to his boyfriend and they dishonorably discharged him. To be quite frank, you disgust me. To say someone is less of a person because of their sexual orientation is an awful thing to say. DADT is nothing more than a front for bigotry and that statement proved it
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Being gay doesn't create a bully any more than being black does. Some people just like to pick on others, and they'll find any reason for it. If they aren't picking on the gay soldier, they'll pick on the red-haired one.
    stop making our point for us..

    after all, nothing is true for everyone, nothing all conclusive.

    your "red head" example would be the work of a person truly just looking to bully.

    why do you keep using bullying as the example by the way.
    Did you read somewhere that would be the case...or is that the oddity you compare the red head analogy to.?
    I opine the reason for dont ask dont tell is the comfort level being a distraction in a venue needing no unecessary distraction.

    the reason why dont ask dont tell works is just what it says.
    who cares, unless you flaunt it.
    I dont think anyone would care if I attended an athiest convention as long as I didnt mention Christ as my lord and savoir.
    people that dont feel comfortable around "openly" acting gays arent going to be made to just because you pass a law that says they have to.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    stop making our point for us..

    after all, nothing is true for everyone, nothing all conclusive.

    your "red head" example would be the work of a person truly just looking to bully.

    why do you keep using bullying as the example by the way.
    Did you read somewhere that would be the case...or is that the oddity you compare the red head analogy to.?
    I opine the reason for dont ask dont tell is the comfort level being a distraction in a venue needing no unecessary distraction.

    the reason why dont ask dont tell works is just what it says.
    who cares, unless you flaunt it.
    I dont think anyone would care if I attended an athiest convention as long as I didnt mention Christ as my lord and savoir.
    people that dont feel comfortable around "openly" acting gays arent going to be made to just because you pass a law that says they have to.
    It's not working for those who can't be themselves and talk about the ones they love.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Being gay makes you sub-standard now? Maybe that's why you think treating homosexuals like second class citizens is "not broken".
    Of course you think that's what it means.

    But, actually, I'm talking about how be violated Army regulations in his crusade against DADT.

    Here is a photgraph of Lt. Choi attending a political rally, in uniform. A violation of Army Regulations.



    Another photograph of Lt. Choi egaging in unauthorized political speech. Another violation of Army Regulations.



    And, another of Lt. Choi enagaging in political activities, while in uniform. Again, an illegal act, in accordance with Army Regulations.




    Any officer that doesn't conduct himself IAW with the regulations and laws of the United States military, is a piece of **** and therefore a substandard officer. It doesn't matter which regulation and laws that are being violated.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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