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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It was harder for blacks to hide, but that doesn't change the dynamics much. Soldiers still had to interact with someone many did not want to. And it being harder, potentially even dangerous, was not reason to not allow them to serve with those they served with. And the army adjusted despite any trouble or problems. And it was right regardless of the cost. The same is true here.

    That said, I suspect we would have less trouble than you might think. The objection to homosexuals is much less than the objection to segregation was back then.
    You're absolutely right. But, here--in my opinion--we have a way to make this a safer transition. Why not give it a shot, vice repeating history? I think our military and it's members are worth the effort. Don't you?
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    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    IMO, Navy is exactly right, liberals live in a fantasy world where they are never wrong, there are no consequences for failure, and everyone is equal in all aspects including outcome. If you and others are wrong regarding your assessment then what are the consequences to the military? This law has been on the books for 17 years so tell us the consequences of that law in regards to national security. We know the results with the law but not without it. There are proponents on each side so tell me what is the worst case scenerio if the law is repealed and then ask yourself if it is worth it?
    First of all. Your assumption of liberals is based in fantasy itself.
    Let's look at what the law does currently. Currently the consequences are the homosexuals can never speak of their sexuality (which isn't all that bad right) However, this entails banning their family from military functions. Their partners receive no benefits or support like a heterosexual military family would. Their partner and the soldier must keep quiet about their relationship. Straight soldiers can sometimes move their families with them onto bases, a homosexual family couldn't do this. Currently the consequence of the law is that an injustice is being approved of. It is disrespecting our soldiers and denies them rights and privileges.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're absolutely right. But, here--in my opinion--we have a way to make this a safer transition. Why not give it a shot, vice repeating history? I think our military and it's members are worth the effort. Don't you?
    I also think they are worth fairness. The military includes homosexuals who serve. I actually believe it will be far less tramatic than you think.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    With all due respect you live in a fantasy world Redress...Gays are the most promiscuous people in t he world....Not all but most have multiple sex partners......Go to google and type in gay bath houses in San Francisco in the eighties and you will find the info.......
    Most of the people in the Navy have had many sexual partners, NP. I'd say that was also true for the other branches as well.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Most of the people in the Navy have had many sexual partners, NP. I'd say that was also true for the other branches as well.



    The Good Reverend lost count of all the fillies he had in his stable during that time....
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Most of the people in the Navy have had many sexual partners, NP. I'd say that was also true for the other branches as well.
    Considering that Navy Pride is on record here on this site bragging about committing adultry with a married woman while her husband was off serving our country, it is kind of ironic listening to him lecture others about being promiscuous.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Considering that Navy Pride is on record here on this site bragging about committing adultry with a married woman while her husband was off serving our country, it is kind of ironic listening to him lecture others about being promiscuous.



    NP cheated on his wife?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    IMO, Navy is exactly right, liberals live in a fantasy world where they are never wrong, there are no consequences for failure, and everyone is equal in all aspects including outcome. If you and others are wrong regarding your assessment then what are the consequences to the military? This law has been on the books for 17 years so tell us the consequences of that law in regards to national security. We know the results with the law but not without it. There are proponents on each side so tell me what is the worst case scenerio if the law is repealed and then ask yourself if it is worth it?
    What the **** does that mindless rant have to do with what I said or Navy said? If Navy is right, can you document that gays are the most promiscuous people in the world?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    The Good Reverend lost count of all the fillies he had in his stable during that time....
    Then you must be gay my left wing friend.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're absolutely right. But, here--in my opinion--we have a way to make this a safer transition. Why not give it a shot, vice repeating history? I think our military and it's members are worth the effort. Don't you?
    Your suggestion is not practical. It would involve complete changes in the way the military does business, including a change to traditions such as military birthday balls and predeployment functions, in which unit personnel are encouraged and even expected to bring significant others. It would also mean a restriction on one of the most important things to servicemembers' morale, support by family and friends for both parts of their lives, private and professional. A restriction on not being able to talk about relationships would most likely lead to more people in trouble. Heck, such a restriction could have led to my husband actually flying home (going UA) to deal with a bad personal problem at home. Because of the support of his Marine buddies, he was convinced of what a bad idea it really was. You cannot force people to lock their feelings away, this will lead to a lot bigger issues than a few people being uncomfortable.
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