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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Yeah, I knew when I used the word "valid" it would illicit a response like this. The thing is, whether troop morale would be affected for "valid" reasons or not is not as important an issue as whether it would be affected at all. The military is different than other jobs. I don't live with my coworkers (much to their relief I'm sure).
    The military was the only "job" I ever had as an adult. I did live with my coworkers, once for more than 9 months on a carrier. A couple of the women I lived with were openly gay. I know exactly what it is like to have openly gay personnel in my department. We did not allow anyone in our department to openly practice intolerance or discrimination. My department officers fought hard to try to keep in two guys that were put out under DADT, because we were already shorthanded (as always) and they were really good workers.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And many of those straight troops have no problem with gay troops serving openly, especially those who have already served with gay troops that they knew were gay. Therefore, those straight troops who are uncomfortable with gay troops serving openly are in a minority, not the majority. Those uncomfortable with gay troops need to get over it.
    So, if a gay soldier "hit on" a straight soldier, the straight soldier should just be expected to "get over it"? That's a lot to ask.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So, if a gay soldier "hit on" a straight soldier, the straight soldier should just be expected to "get over it"? That's a lot to ask.
    Yet you ask it of women all the time.

    It's the ultimate chauvinism. Guys hit on women all the time, but getting HIT ON? **** NO MAN THATS ****ED UP!!!!

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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So, if a gay soldier "hit on" a straight soldier, the straight soldier should just be expected to "get over it"? That's a lot to ask.

    They should take it through the chain of command and if that doesn't work take it to the military lawyers.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    They should take through the chain of command and if that doesn't work take it to the military lawyers.
    Or they should just ignore it like just about every waitress who's number I've tried to get.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    They should take it through the chain of command and if that doesn't work take it to the military lawyers.
    To do what? Wouldn't disciplining the gay soldier be "intolerant"?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yet you ask it of women all the time.

    It's the ultimate chauvinism. Guys hit on women all the time, but getting HIT ON? **** NO MAN THATS ****ED UP!!!!

    I don't know too many guys who who are offended by being hit on by women. I also don't know too many dudes who just take getting hit on by another dude in stride.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean_H View Post
    The problem with a presidental order is they can be overturned (likely one reason he hasn't).
    Then let the next president overturn it. Obama is just a coward,trying to see if the water is too hot or too cold so that he does not politically jeopardize his or his fellow democrat's political careers. The fact another president may or may not overturn it is irrelevant.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't know too many guys who who are offended by being hit on by women. I also don't know too many dudes who just take getting hit on by another dude in stride.
    I don't get upset if a dude hits on me, but if an unattractive female hits on me I beat her senseless.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I don't get upset if a dude hits on me, but if an unattractive female hits on me I beat her senseless.
    What if the dude is unattractive?

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