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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Again, that wasn't my experience. What few females I had contact with were nothing but trouble waiting for a place to happen. I got an Article 15 one time for cussing and a female soldier simply heard me. I didn't even know she was there, but she was offended and I got burnt for it.
    You can't cuss? I wasn't aware of that.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    All the more reason to concentrate on the actual ban on gays and stop boo-day'n about ****ing DADT!
    The entire thing needs to go away, and gays allowed to serve openly in the exact same manner that straights do. This would mean no punishment or discharges for a police officer seeing a legal marriage license in the home of a servicemember. This would mean no punishment or discharges for someone who is brings their loved one to a command function, and claims that person as their loved one, no matter the genders of the couple. This would mean the same punishment for two men/women found to be having sex on a military installation that is given to a man and a woman having sex on a military installation.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    I say **** it. Let the courts overturn DADT and let the military go to **** because it wasn't able to implement it on its own terms. Then all these people who opposed repealing DADT will look like even bigger idiots because they didn't act to bring about a controlled legistlative repeal when they could.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This seems like a pretty flimsy assurance to hang people's career on. In my experience, people who go looking for harassment usually find it.
    And a closeted gay person now could find harassment and make the charges now under DADT if they really were looking to charge someone with sexual harassment. In fact, they don't even have to stop with sexual harassment. There are even rules against discrimination based on sexual orientation (ironic, isn't it), so if they wanted to they could claim that someone was discriminating against them based on a person believing that they are gay. As long as they haven't actually done anything to prove that they are gay, they don't even have to worry about being discharged.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    If someone made repeated jokes about Christians, that would be harassment. If someone made repeated jokes about Indians, that would be harassment. But all these require, first, that the person who is offended actually speak up and say something about it, then if it continues, charges can be filed. (Although, when referring to an actual characteristic, it actually isn't even needed that someone ask a person not to tell such jokes, but that should be common sense.)

    We had a girl who ticked off the entire A-school class, including me and the other girl in the class, because she was easily offended and wouldn't let the instructors tell any joke that was harsher than "What did the snail say when he rode on the turtle? Weee!" (We ended up having an entire hour of classroom time that was donated to dirty jokes when she had an appointment with the dentist.) And I am being serious. This girl was made fun of a lot behind her back because of her attitude.
    In a way, you're making my point for me. I think it's a lot to ask of 18 year old recruits to have to walk on egg shells like what you're describing. We ask them to do a serious job, they should be able to blow off a little steam without fear of hurting someone's feelers ~ can you tell I'm a little frustrated with the PC culture?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You didn't when they had been to sea for 90 days...............The guys in the gay bars are doing the daisy chain thing everry night.....huge difference........
    Only in your fantasies Navy....only in your fantasies....
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    In a way, you're making my point for me. I think it's a lot to ask of 18 year old recruits to have to walk on egg shells like what you're describing. We ask them to do a serious job, they should be able to blow off a little steam without fear of hurting someone's feelers ~ can you tell I'm a little frustrated with the PC culture?
    I really wouldn't worry about it. It's not that bad.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This seems like a pretty flimsy assurance to hang people's career on. In my experience, people who go looking for harassment usually find it.

    Damn ****ing right!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    ...........I doubt if I could control myself ..........
    The difference between most mature adults and you Navy is that most men and women are sexually mature enough to be able to control themselves....they don't run off and try to boink every person while their spouse is away serving our country.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I say **** it. Let the courts overturn DADT and let the military go to **** because it wasn't able to implement it on its own terms. Then all these people who opposed repealing DADT will look like even bigger idiots because they didn't act to bring about a controlled legistlative repeal when they could.
    Actually, the idiots would be all the folks that believe that ending DADT would the solution to everything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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