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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Homosexual jokes and slurs are still considered sexual harassment by the military, even if you're just a straight who has a problem with it.
    Yes, I'm already aware of that. Had a dude come cry-baby'n to the EO board one time, because someone called him a faggot and it was a big deal, because his brother was gay.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    No one actually complains. You just hear about everything you're not allowed to do every couple months at a sexual harassment meeting. Or so I hear from one who whines loudly about it.
    I remember the early days of women on more combat ships, when no one really knew yet what they could and couldn't do, and every one watches so closely what they would say...then some poor kid would slip up without thinking and tell a woman to move that box just a ****hair to the left to get the holes lined up, and then panic. Watching said poor kid turn so red he was purple made the day, and it was the women who told the shop about it after to laugh at him.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    They can get in trouble for it now. I really don't see that as the biggest hurdle to repealing DADT.
    No, maybe not the biggest hurdle, just another one to consider.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I remember the early days of women on more combat ships, when no one really knew yet what they could and couldn't do, and every one watches so closely what they would say...then some poor kid would slip up without thinking and tell a woman to move that box just a ****hair to the left to get the holes lined up, and then panic. Watching said poor kid turn so red he was purple made the day, and it was the women who told the shop about it after to laugh at him.
    That sailor's luckly he didn't say it to the wrong female.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I remember the early days of women on more combat ships, when no one really knew yet what they could and couldn't do, and every one watches so closely what they would say...then some poor kid would slip up without thinking and tell a woman to move that box just a ****hair to the left to get the holes lined up, and then panic. Watching said poor kid turn so red he was purple made the day, and it was the women who told the shop about it after to laugh at him.
    Aw! Little military boys are so cute.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    No, maybe not the biggest hurdle, just another one to consider.
    Considering they are currently allowed to complain about dirty jokes or homosexual slurs, I don't see why it needs to be considered.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Aw! Little military boys are so cute.
    Ain't we??

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    No, maybe not the biggest hurdle, just another one to consider.
    Msgt(not sure if you met him here, Kelzie certainly has though...he is a msgt in the Marines currently and a great if aggravating at times guy) and I have had a couple good discussions on DADT, and I think we kinda agreed that there would be certain issues with DADT repeal, more than most liberals want to admit, but far fewer than most opposed to repeal think. It will be like anything else. There will be an awkward period, and then when things start happening(deployments and such) people will forget all about it and just treat each other as squadmates or shipmates or whatever.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    But how do you know this? Let me ask you, if someone made repeated jokes about homosexuals, would that be harassment?
    If someone made repeated jokes about Christians, that would be harassment. If someone made repeated jokes about Indians, that would be harassment. But all these require, first, that the person who is offended actually speak up and say something about it, then if it continues, charges can be filed. (Although, when referring to an actual characteristic, it actually isn't even needed that someone ask a person not to tell such jokes, but that should be common sense.)

    We had a girl who ticked off the entire A-school class, including me and the other girl in the class, because she was easily offended and wouldn't let the instructors tell any joke that was harsher than "What did the snail say when he rode on the turtle? Weee!" (We ended up having an entire hour of classroom time that was donated to dirty jokes when she had an appointment with the dentist.) And I am being serious. This girl was made fun of a lot behind her back because of her attitude.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That sailor's luckly he didn't say it to the wrong female.
    Well yeah, but the reality is, most females are the right female for that. Most women realize that guys are going to say some things. Women do know when to tune out.
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