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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    But how do you know this? Let me ask you, if someone made repeated jokes about homosexuals, would that be harassment?
    And they can complain about it now. If they're not inclined to do so, why would they be after DADT is repealed?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You wanna bet?

    There EO boards are going to be very busy, after DADT is repealed.
    Yeah I do. People with who are that thinned skinned don't last long in the military anyway.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    In my 21 years in the Navy I have seen to many cases where gay men aboard ship after 90 days at sea maded unwanted sexual advances against their straight shipmates......I really don't honestly blame them...For them its like a kid in a candy store..I equate it to myself being on a ship with all beautiful women, dressing, sleeping, showering with them...........I doubt if I could control myself...........Its the same thing for gays no matter how much you deny it it happens......I have seen it...........
    And in my 12 years in the Navy, 5 aboard an aircraft carrier with about a dozen openly gay men in my department alone and at least 2 openly gay women, not one case of sexual assault ever occurred aboard where a gay man grabbed,touched, fondled, or in any other way was brought up on charges of sexually harassing or assaulting another man. We also had zero cases of a gay woman sexually harassing or assaulting another woman. That was on the whole ship. We did however, have straight men sexually harassing and even a few assaulting women aboard ship on almost a monthly basis.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, of course they're not going to complain about it, now. Don't ask, don't tell; remember?
    Homosexual jokes and slurs are still considered sexual harassment by the military, even if you're just a straight who has a problem with it.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Homosexual jokes and slurs are still considered sexual harassment by the military, even if you're just a straight who has a problem with it.
    Really? Military has gotten so soft since I was in....

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Interesting, so would gay service members claim harassment when someone in their barracks tell a gay or dirty joke? I hadn't even considered this possibility before.
    Anyone can claim sexual harassment if someone tells any joke even remotely dirty. That is already a part of the sexual harassment policy.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It's really not that hard to see the hypocrisy, and blatant discrimination in DADT. If you can not tell me how the activities I described would cause problems, then you really have no basis for this "greater good" argument, especially since, you know there is that scientific study saying that lifting DADT won't cause harm to military readiness. It's not about being PC, it's about treating everyone equally.
    Stuff like starting a family, which is encouraged for straight soldiers is prohibited under DADT for LGBT soldiers because it is considered telling.
    Where do you get that the military encourages families? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just wondering where you get that from.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Really? Military has gotten so soft since I was in....

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    No one actually complains. You just hear about everything you're not allowed to do every couple months at a sexual harassment meeting. Or so I hear from one who whines loudly about it.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Where do you get that the military encourages families? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just wondering where you get that from.
    Dude, oh my god, do they ever. It's not something that can be explained, you just have to be part of the military culture. It's very "go forth and multiply" friendly.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yeah I do. People with who are that thinned skinned don't last long in the military anyway.
    They're there. You can take that to the bank. Why do you think that every company in the Army has an equal oppurtunity board?

    Besides...how the hell do you know who will last long in the service and won't? You're talking like you're some kind expert, something.

    I've sat on 5 EO boards and you can't imagine the cry baby mother ****ers that come in there boo-hoo'n, because someone hurt their feelings. 99.99999% of the time, those soldiers were non-white. I never served in a unit with females, but I hear they're the worst.
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