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Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia

SirPwn4lot said:
If I were doing something similar I'd focus on the US purely because it views itself as a beacon of freedom. Britain down the line somewhere, China somewhere, Russia, etc.
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Well, I view it as recieving stolen property, and giving said property to the enemy. A bullet in the head would be too nice for assface.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Used to.... Used to..... He made the change which caused a defection of many of his people because they claimed he became obsessed with the US.
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Okay. So? You say this as if it's relevant. I'm glad to know some of the information that has been leaked about us. I realize, however, that other countries have far dirtier laundry.

See, I'm not that worried. I know the sorts of information that are marked as classified (and they aren't that damaging). I also don't think we have nearly as much dirty laundry lying around as other folks do.
 
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Catz Part Deux said:
Okay. So? You say this as if it's relevant. I'm glad to know some of the information that has been leaked about us. I realize, however, that other countries have far dirtier laundry.
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and he's going to ignore that to focus on us, or he was going to do that. :shrug:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
and he's going to ignore that to focus on us, or he was going to do that. :shrug:
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I posted this above, but I will repost it here...

First...I doubt the capacity of most classified documents to damage us very much.

Second...our dirtiest laundry pales in comparison to what China, Cuba, etc. are hiding in their closets. We know this, and the world knows it.

Third...some of what has been released is good for us, as citizens, to know about. The Dyncorp/sex slavery scandal, for instance.

Don't you think that a lot of the governmental contractors need greater oversight? I do.

I think it's good for us to see how effective our state department and DOD are in dealing with corrupt foreign powers. I think it's good for us (and the world) to see that we don't really have that much to hide.

I'm okay with the Obamites being embarrassed because their manipulation of the climate accords were leaked. Do you think that's the sort of activity our country should be engaging in?

So, in summarly...
I think the reason that people like Robert Gates aren't reacting that much to this is because they realize that we don't have that much to hide.

And, I'm not scared of anything that Assange is going to post about us. I refuse to be manipulated by the voices that tell me that we should be afraid of governmental openness and transparency.

Sorry. I'm not going to overreact to this situation.
 
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Catz Part Deux said:
I posted this above, but I will repost it here...

First...I doubt the capacity of most classified documents to damage us very much.
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This I agree with, most of the crap that is "classified" is boring as ****.... However it only takes one document that destorys OPSEC for our troops. Manning swore an oath, and a fit of gay pride rage commited treason, the person recieving it, then posted information that our enemies are now data mining.


one document is nothing, but if you look at a whole mess of them you can figure things out.....


Second...our dirtiest laundry pales in comparison to what China, Cuba, etc. are hiding in their closets. We know this, and the world knows it.
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True, however, this does not give the right of those in possesion of stolen goods to make this information public.


Third...some of what has been released is good for us, as citizens, to know about. The Dyncorp/sex slavery scandal, for instance.
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This just shows you that we take it far more serious than the UN. :shrug:


We knew about this before wikileaks. :shrug:


Don't you think that a lot of the governmental contractors need greater oversight? I do.
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Depends..... actually. in this case yes.



I think it's good for us to see how effective our state department and DOD are in dealing with corrupt foreign powers. I think it's good for us (and the world) to see that we don't really have that much to hide.
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This part I agree with., That said. it was a betrayal by a soldier, and a release by a smug assface who has it out for the US.


I think the reason that people like Robert Gates aren't reacting that much to this is because they realize that we don't have that much to hide.

I'm ookay with the Obamites being embarrassed because their manipulation of the climate accords were leaked. Do you think that's the sort of activity our country should be engaging in?

I'm not scared of anything that Assange is going to post about us.

Sorry. I'm not going to overreact to this situation.
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I still think assface needs a bullet right in his face anus.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Well, I view it as recieving stolen property, and giving said property to the enemy. A bullet in the head would be too nice for assface.
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I dispute that the government should have property rights over its secrets. Your position is laughable. What should they do to him? It'd be ironic if they kept him in Guantanamo and tortured him for the next 50 years, given that he leaked the manual they'd be using to do it.

If Assange gets the death penalty I'll fly over and spend the 15 years before they execute him doing everything I can to help :p
 
SirPwn4lot said:
I dispute that the government should have property rights over its secrets. Your position is laughable. What should they do to him? It'd be ironic if they kept him in Guantanamo and tortured him for the next 50 years, given that he leaked the manual they'd be using to do it.
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Really? So if he was posting all of our troop locations its simply "too bad"? seriously?


If Assange gets the death penalty I'll fly over and spend the 15 years before they execute him doing everything I can to help :p
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Like what? Writing indignant letters of dismay? :lamo
 
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