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    Re: Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    What I read in that scenario is the function of the CIA. Certainly we all know there is a constant intelligence game going on out there, but there is a national purpose - someone's national purpose - being served in their work.
    So you see zero value in Chinese dissidents leaking information that China is engaged in an ongoing cyberwar with the U.S. and U.S. companies? And, you wouldn't want to protect the dissidents who leaked this information?

    But this is a man without a country, leaking information in the name of "journalism" with no other cause other than to claim a dedication toward "transparency". It doesn't wash with me.
    Transparency isn't enough? I think transparency is crucial to democracy. Democracy requires an educated populace who are informed, regularly and openly, on the doings of the people that we've tasked with our business. Do you think our society suffers from too little or too much government transparency right now?

    Putting aside what Assange's motives are (and frankly, his motives don't matter much, what matters is where we find ourselves now), do you think that it is better for us to know about Dyncorp paying for child prostitutes for Afghani diplomats or not?

    This, to me, looks more like a "look at me" campaign, and by doing this so publicly, he's not accomplishing anything but straining relations in a world that is already strained.
    I don't believe they are as strained as you suggest. We give a lot of countries around the world massive amounts of money, resources, weapons, etc. They're going to keep playing, even though we're the world's worst secret keepers. There is no benefit in them not playing with us...and they certainly don't want to lose their cash cow. They may even be downright pissed for a while, but they'll get over it as long as the cash keeps flowing.

    I think this is going to damage communication between nations, not improve it. I think this is going to HURT transparency, not promote it. This is going to scare everyone back into their closets, and it will be very Cold War like between nations once again.
    It's possible, but unlikely.

    Or so, that is a possibility. I'm just thinking out loud as you asked.
    Thank you, for that. But you didn't answer my question. What would you support doing in the scenario I described?

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    Re: Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    When Wikileaks publishes Russian cables, it will be a wonderful opportunity to hold Russian leaders accountable to the idea of free speech and transparent governance.

    Uhm assface said he was focusing on the US, and would ignore or not bother with other countries dirty laundry.
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    Re: Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Uhm assface said he was focusing on the US, and would ignore or not bother with other countries dirty laundry.
    Wikileaks has posted plenty of dirty laundry from other countries, bro.

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    Re: Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Uhm assface said he was focusing on the US, and would ignore or not bother with other countries dirty laundry.
    If I were doing something similar I'd focus on the US purely because it views itself as a beacon of freedom. Britain down the line somewhere, China somewhere, Russia, etc.

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    Re: Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Wikileaks has posted plenty of dirty laundry from other countries, bro.


    Used to.... Used to..... He made the change which caused a defection of many of his people because they claimed he became obsessed with the US.
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    Re: Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    If I were doing something similar I'd focus on the US purely because it views itself as a beacon of freedom. Britain down the line somewhere, China somewhere, Russia, etc.


    Well, I view it as recieving stolen property, and giving said property to the enemy. A bullet in the head would be too nice for assface.
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    Re: Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Used to.... Used to..... He made the change which caused a defection of many of his people because they claimed he became obsessed with the US.
    Okay. So? You say this as if it's relevant. I'm glad to know some of the information that has been leaked about us. I realize, however, that other countries have far dirtier laundry.

    See, I'm not that worried. I know the sorts of information that are marked as classified (and they aren't that damaging). I also don't think we have nearly as much dirty laundry lying around as other folks do.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 12-09-10 at 03:09 PM.

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    Re: Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Well, I view it as recieving stolen property, and giving said property to the enemy. A bullet in the head would be too nice for assface.
    When your only tool is a hammer, every situation looks like a nail.

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    Re: Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    When your only tool is a hammer, every situation looks like a nail.


    I like nails....... :
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    Re: Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I like nails....... :
    And hammering.

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