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    China's campaign against Nobel seen as backfiring

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    BEIJING China's relentless criticism of the bestowing of the Nobel Peace Prize on imprisoned Chinese dissident writer Liu Xiaobo showed signs of backfiring Thursday, as criticism of Beijing rose a day ahead of the award ceremony.

    Beijing's high-pressure tactics and campaign of vilification have ensured a wave of publicity for Liu, a bookish 54-year-old democracy activist who was formerly all but unknown even inside China.
    How many people would even be interested in this presentation tomorrow but for Chinese pressure. Their government is putting MORE light on the Nobel Prize and Liu Hsiao po than anything be ever did.

    Many Western governments are appalled and Serbia's joining of a boycott of the ceremony may well further hurt its EU aspirations. The Philippines, which also sponsors a Human Rights prize, has also come under fire for stating it will not attend the ceremony.

    And the "Confucius Prize" is just a cynical creation... I wonder if Lien Chan will be there to accept it... if he does, that will create some backlash here in Taiwan and put the KMT-government here in a difficult position because Lien is the honorary KMT-chairmain, but the government here has been outspoken in its support for Liu.

    Interesting happenings over this... stay tuned...
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    Re: China's campaign against Nobel seen as backfiring

    Are you KMT or DPP?

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    Re: China's campaign against Nobel seen as backfiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Are you KMT or DPP?
    Does it matter? This is about China's barbarism, not Taiwan's partisan politics...
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    Re: China's campaign against Nobel seen as backfiring

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Does it matter? This is about China's barbarism, not Taiwan's partisan politics...
    DPP huh!

    Yes, the CCP is barbaric. China has seen much barbarism for a very long time. The game the PRC is playing is quite obvious to any one paying attention. The Chinese are playing a very long game. Since the fall of the Gang of Four the PRC has been blessed with cautious leaders. This will not always be the case.

    We in the West had a choice to make about China on whether it should be permitted to rise and prosper or whether it should be undermined. If China was allowed to rise and prosper it might turn out to moderate its behavior as its people grew wealthier and demanded liberty.

    But there was a risk that if China was allowed to rise and prosper without restraint it might become a wealthy authoritarian state. America and the West chose to believe that China would grow prosperous, moderate, and become a stakeholder in the international system.

    China has risen and it is now obvious that China has become a prosperous authoritarian state. The West chose poorly.

    Chinese foreign and defense policies are becoming progressively more aggressive.

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    Re: China's campaign against Nobel seen as backfiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    DPP huh!

    Yes, the CCP is barbaric. China has seen much barbarism for a very long time. The game the PRC is playing is quite obvious to any one paying attention. The Chinese are playing a very long game. Since the fall of the Gang of Four the PRC has been blessed with cautious leaders. This will not always be the case.

    We in the West had a choice to make about China on whether it should be permitted to rise and prosper or whether it should be undermined. If China was allowed to rise and prosper it might turn out to moderate its behavior as its people grew wealthier and demanded liberty.

    But there was a risk that if China was allowed to rise and prosper without restraint it might become a wealthy authoritarian state. America and the West chose to believe that China would grow prosperous, moderate, and become a stakeholder in the international system.

    China has risen and it is now obvious that China has become a prosperous authoritarian state. The West chose poorly.

    Chinese foreign and defense policies are becoming progressively more aggressive.
    Yes, I am DPP. Still don't see the relevance as it pertains to this thread. Even most KMT people here think this is all a pretty silly comedy on the part of the PRC. Even pro-Lien people think this is comical at best. Loved reading about it in the local Chinese-language dailies this morning... truly comical...

    I have been saying this for more than a decade and most have ignored it... I hate to say this to people, but I TOLD YOU SO!!!!
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    Re: China's campaign against Nobel seen as backfiring

    Does this award really mean anything anymore anyway?

    Al Gore got one over a hoax.

    C'mon.

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    Re: China's campaign against Nobel seen as backfiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Does this award really mean anything anymore anyway?

    Al Gore got one over a hoax.

    C'mon.
    Obviously China thinks it does or they wouldn't be pulling this oversized temper tantrum over it...
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    Re: China's campaign against Nobel seen as backfiring

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Yes, I am DPP. Still don't see the relevance as it pertains to this thread. Even most KMT people here think this is all a pretty silly comedy on the part of the PRC. Even pro-Lien people think this is comical at best. Loved reading about it in the local Chinese-language dailies this morning... truly comical...

    I have been saying this for more than a decade and most have ignored it... I hate to say this to people, but I TOLD YOU SO!!!!
    The KMT betrayed Taiwan imo by delaying arms purchases for so many years. Now it's basically too late to arm up. This was foreseeable.

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    Re: China's campaign against Nobel seen as backfiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    The KMT betrayed Taiwan imo by delaying arms purchases for so many years. Now it's basically too late to arm up. This was foreseeable.
    Don't even get me STARTED on this hypocritical, KMT traitors... just makes my blood boil... Bush was ready to see Taiwan most of what it was asking for six years ago!!! ARGH!!!
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    Re: China's campaign against Nobel seen as backfiring

    It seems that the people of Taiwan are as divided in some ways as are Americans. The KMT people seem to think that they will have a role after reunification should that occur. The DPP people want to maintain a unique Taiwanese existence and identity. There really is no middle ground on which to unite the Taiwanese people.

    The status quo will not be maintained. Taiwanese-Chinese economic integration will only increase as time passes. Contact will increase. Meanwhile, America will grow weaker and remain divided.

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