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    Re: WH warns tax defeat could trigger new recession

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    Yet, I'm the only one that you single out for criticism? Hypocrisy comes to mind all of a sudden.
    You made the comment, apdst. Not my fault you did. Just wait. I'm sure you won't be the only one.
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    Re: WH warns tax defeat could trigger new recession

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    You made the comment, apdst. Not my fault you did. Just wait. I'm sure you won't be the only one.
    The same comments have come from the other side, yet you didn't pick on them. Can't say as I'm all that surprised, Cap't. This is probably just a flamefest, anyway. You're good for those.
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    Re: WH warns tax defeat could trigger new recession

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What would you like to see happen?

    Let's face it, both sides are doing what they think is best for the country. One sides is right and one side is wrong.
    Look at your comment. It's actually a contradiction. If both sides are doing what they think is best for the country, one side really can't be right and the other can't be wrong. Who's right and who's wrong is a matter of perspective.

    What I'd like to see is assessment based on the issues, not based on the political affiliation. Too many people just make decisions based on beating the other guy.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: WH warns tax defeat could trigger new recession

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I rarely start threads, but something struck me about the article that I am referring. I understand that we have several threads on this issue, but there was two lines from this article that I wanted to focus on:



    I placed in bold the comments that annoyed me. This is the problem with this entire issue. Seems to me that neither side really cares what is best for the country. They just care about winning. Republicans refusing to accept ANYTHING unless they get what they want. Democrats charting wins and losses. This is the kind of stupid partisanship that has been ruining this country for a while. It would be nice if people could just get together and say, "ok, screw winning. Let's assess what works." I understand that there are differences in opinion in what works, but threatening to "take your toys and go home" or looking at it as a win/loss idea. misses the point of what is needing to be accomplished. IMO, both parties have acted atrociously, for the most part, putting the interests of their party above the interests of the country.

    So. my question to you is NOT what you think of the tax cut compromise, but what do you think of the behavior of the two parties surrounding this entire thing.
    *snip - nevermind. It's late, I'm tired!*
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    Re: WH warns tax defeat could trigger new recession

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    My sense is that the way the compromise was put together was close to what we would hope the two parties would do. Let's remember that both sides have truely different views on the topics they dealt with. So to say we "got" something we otherwise would not is true. For example the President was able to get the 2% reduction on payroll taxes which will he most helpful to lower earners. By got he meant that there is no way this would have passed as stand alone legislation. Same with the Republicans on the tax break for upper incomes.

    The point you miss is that there is no absolute "Best Answer". Both sides think they have the best answer and thus the need to compromise to get to an answer that satisfies both sides and hopefully somewhere in there it also works for the American people.
    Actually, I don't miss the point that there is no best answer. I'd like to SEE a best answer, but I'd like to see that both sides agree that it is the best answer rather than mocking the other for losing, berating the other... or their own for "selling out", or congradulate themselves for winning. I really don't see the point, if the desire is to do the best for the country.

    I do agree, though, that the compromise was the best possible solution.
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    Re: WH warns tax defeat could trigger new recession

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The same comments have come from the other side, yet you didn't pick on them. Can't say as I'm all that surprised, Cap't. This is probably just a flamefest, anyway. You're good for those.
    No, actually, they haven't. I'm waiting for them, though.
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    Re: WH warns tax defeat could trigger new recession

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Look at your comment. It's actually a contradiction. If both sides are doing what they think is best for the country, one side really can't be right and the other can't be wrong. Who's right and who's wrong is a matter of perspective.

    What I'd like to see is assessment based on the issues, not based on the political affiliation. Too many people just make decisions based on beating the other guy.


    No, who's right and who's wrong is a matter of results.
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    Re: WH warns tax defeat could trigger new recession

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Letting the tax cuts for the wealthy expire would decrease the deficit.
    No it would not Obama would just spend more. If Obama has not taken the stimulus and tarp money that was not spent and has not used it to pay down the debt what makes you think he will use any money to pay the debt. If Obama was concerned about the debt he would use the stimulus and tarp funds to pay unemployment benefits.

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    Re: WH warns tax defeat could trigger new recession

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, who's right and who's wrong is a matter of results.
    You know the old saying... there are lies, there are damn lies, and then there are statistics. Results are a matter of perspective in a lot of cases.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: WH warns tax defeat could trigger new recession

    All this sentiment about politicians just "doing what's best for the country" would carry a lot more weight if everyone actually agreed on what was best for the country. The fact that they don't is why we have all of this partisanship in the first place.

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