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Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

Hicup said:
Didn't read the whole thread, but there is NO WAY in hell this low level private is responsible for all these leaks. Why is no one asking that question in the media? Am I missing something?
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That is a perfectly valid point...

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Erod said:
Nope. Most of them are championing it.

However, I also think it is dividing liberals, too. And that is a good thing, much like the DADT is dividing Republicans. Both are healthy in that regard.
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I'm thinking you're wrong on this one. :mrgreen:
 
Catz Part Deux said:
The difference is that sharing classified material is not generally seen as an act of espionage. That's not true for top secret materials. Do you understand that government/elected officials leak classified materials ALL THE DAMN TIME, on an almost daily basis, to further their goals? Do you understand that there are over 1 million Americans (plus foreign contractors and nationals) who have access to classified material on an almost daily basis?

If this classified material were actually as detrimental to our wellbeing as you'd like to claim, it would have been classified as top secret, and PRIVATE BENNING WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCESS IT.

Please stop misrepresenting what was actually leaked as if it truly endangers people's lives.

The information about possible targets is readily accessible utilizing a google search and a little common sense.
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None of which addressed what I said, which is becoming a pattern.

Did you actually read the quote from Gates? Is this situation embarrassing? sure. Is it as detrimental as Erod wishes to claim (warranting execution by firing squad)? Hell no. And, that's exactly what Gates said.
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You need to go back and read what Erod wrote. You have spent alot of time assuming you know what people mean despite what they say the last couple days. Erod was not claiming detriment(though Gates admits to there being a detriment), but that it was "unhelpful".

Really. It's celebrity gossip to address the fact that taxpayer dollars went to pay for child prostitution for Afghani diplomats through Dyncorp?

I'm sorry, but I think you've lost all perspective here. If there is a leak that is on par with the Pentagon Papers, that's it.
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TMZ and juicy sex scandals go together.
 
Redress said:
None of which addressed what I said, which is becoming a pattern.
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I find your attitude obdurate, your opinions fixed, and you seem uninterested in assimilating new information. I think i'm done.
 
Erod said:
Now, Russia wants to honor Assange with an even greater recognition, the Nobel Peace Prize.

Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia | Media | guardian.co.uk
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I wonder how Russia will feel when Wikileaks leaks THEIR cables. Lulz. Y'all just don't appreciate how this is the gift that keeps on giving.

First, it highlights the holes in our SRSInet, before something far more major is unleashed.

Second, it reminds us again of the importance of the press in the American system. This will be a great lesson for American school children on the Bill of Rights, and how it functions (not to mention some of the posters on this thread).

Third, many of these cables show exactly how well the state department functions when interacting with corrupt, incompetent foreign stoolies (in the situation with dyncorp hiring child prostitutes in Afghanistan, for instance, it shows that the state department and/or DOD held Dyncorp accountable for this conduct and that punitive measures were put into place, for instance, and the ambassador rebuffed attempts by the Afghani contact to squash media reports).

Fourth, it provides nearly limitless opportunities for humor (those of you who haven't been reading them are missing out).

Now? A future opportunity to hold Russia accountable to the concept of free speech.

Some of you people just don't appreciate the large silver lining that has come along with this situation.
 
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Dutch said:
Aww, c'mon, I think american conservatives would make an exception in assange's case. :lamo
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You people haven't gotten over the fact that Obama was born in Hawaii, dude. How can we take this claim seriously?
 
I wonder if Berkley knows that Wikileaks damaged Obama's reputation when it released that his administration was looking for dirt to blackmail foreign dignitaries into signing a climate treaty?
 
mpg said:
I certainly hope that the mainstream left is outraged by this.
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Dutch said:
That would be unlikely since they are in point of fact considering honoring him.
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No, "the mainstream left" is not "considering honoring him;" some bozo on the Berkeley City Council is considering honoring him. :roll:

Frankly, this doesn't surprise me.

For one brief, agonizing year, I was the confidential admin to Berkeley's City Clerk, and the outlandish issues the locals brought into our office every day were almost as nutty as the fact that the City Council often took them into consideration. For example, not long after I was hired, I had the joy of including the "Long Live Tinky Winky" measure on the City Council's meeting agenda. :shock:

The council members I knew back then were all a bit loopy; apparently this current crop is, too. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
 
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