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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Value to me and the right thing to do are two wholly separate issues. It's like walking in on your wife having an affair. When she see's you she exclaims "He gave me herpies and you probably have it to." Now, was it wrong of here to have the affair? Absolutely! Was it helpful for her to tell me about the herpies? Absolutely! Does that make the affair ok? Hell no!
    So, you don't think that the story about dyncorp paying for child sex slaves should be public consumption.

    Why?

    As citizens, you don't think we are entitled to know about gross misuses of our tax dollars?

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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post

    Well in all fairness, speaking strictly as a conservative..........that's what the mainstream left looks like to us.
    Perhaps a trip to the ophthalmologist is in order.

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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    So, you don't think that the story about dyncorp paying for child sex slaves should be public consumption.

    Why?

    As citizens, you don't think we are entitled to know about gross misuses of our tax dollars?
    Hoy. Can you not see that the ends don't always justify the means?
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Hoy. Can you not see that the ends don't always justify the means?
    Hoy. If if you want to break a cake, you've got to break some eggs. Now's no time to go all squeamish on us.

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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Hoy. If if you want to break a cake, you've got to break some eggs. Now's no time to go all squeamish on us.
    What the hell are you talking about?
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    If he gets the award it should be posthumous



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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Read up on Socrates. That's my position legislatively. If required, he should drink the Hemlock.

    Morally? I agree, the man is a hero.

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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    On one level, I have a feeling that Private Benning felt that he'd uncovered the same sort of wrongdoing that Ellsberg did in the Pentagon papers, when he read the classified information about the helicopter attack on (apparently) unarmed civilians in Iraq.

    I think it's more he was pissed cause he was gay.




    That's exactly the sort of information that needs to see the light of day. It should not be hushed up and hidden behind a purely military investigation. The American public have a right to information about those kinds of issues, just like we have a right (and a responsibility to know) about what happened in the hidden prisons at Gitmo and in Abu Ghraib.

    On another level, Private Benning clearly violated the law and his sworn oath, and he didn't stop with releasing the single incident, but went much, much further to release reams of information that were not necessarily evidence of a government coverup, and in fact, of which he had zero knowledge or understanding.

    Private Benning will have his day in court. It's up to the jury/judge (and, frankly, history) to decide whether his actions were traitorous or heroic.

    Let me ask those who are so quick to condemn him, though. Do you think Daniel Ellsberg was a traitor or a hero?

    I think history has determined that he's a hero. So, what are the crucial differences between Ellsberg and Private Benning?


    Traitor benning was angry at how the US and the military views homosexuality.
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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    What the hell are you talking about?
    I was just trying to speak your language, bro.

    You went all philosophical on me, instead of just answering the question. Does that information warrant being known or not?

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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I think it's more he was pissed cause he was gay.

    Traitor benning was angry at how the US and the military views homosexuality.
    Were you there? You speak so definitively, as if you know the guy.

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