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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    On one level, I have a feeling that Private Benning felt that he'd uncovered the same sort of wrongdoing that Ellsberg did in the Pentagon papers, when he read the classified information about the helicopter attack on (apparently) unarmed civilians in Iraq.

    That's exactly the sort of information that needs to see the light of day. It should not be hushed up and hidden behind a purely military investigation. The American public have a right to information about those kinds of issues, just like we have a right (and a responsibility to know) about what happened in the hidden prisons at Gitmo and in Abu Ghraib.

    On another level, Private Benning clearly violated the law and his sworn oath, and he didn't stop with releasing the single incident, but went much, much further to release reams of information that were not necessarily evidence of a government coverup, and in fact, of which he had zero knowledge or understanding.

    Private Benning will have his day in court. It's up to the jury/judge (and, frankly, history) to decide whether his actions were traitorous or heroic.

    Let me ask those who are so quick to condemn him, though. Do you think Daniel Ellsberg was a traitor or a hero?

    I think history has determined that he's a hero. So, what are the crucial differences between Ellsberg and Private Benning?
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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How is berating a university, for honoring a traitor, partisan? Wouldn't you agree that any college honchos in this country, who would even consider honoring a traitor, have **** between their ears?

    Or, are you refraining from badmouthing Berkley, in fear of losing your Liberal pledge pin and not being allowed into the Liberal treehouse anymore? Now, that, would be partisan.
    He did not berate the university, he berated liberals. This is a large, unsubtle difference.
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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Catz, there are legal methods and channels to use if you think you find wrongdoing. He chose not to use those channels.
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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He did not berate the university, he berated liberals. This is a large, unsubtle difference.
    The university happens to be the holy mecca of liberals. They set the national agenda.

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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The university happens to be the holy mecca of liberals. They set the national agenda.
    I love UC Berkeley. Best public university in the world.

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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The university happens to be the holy mecca of liberals. They set the national agenda.
    No they do not. Thank you for playing, but complete and total fail has been achieved.
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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Catz, there are legal methods and channels to use if you think you find wrongdoing. He chose not to use those channels.
    I agree. On the other hand, given his position in the military, he may have felt his options were limited, in the same way that Daniel Ellsberg felt that he had limited means to ensure that the American public were allowed to read the report on the Vietnam War.

    That's the sort of thing that will be addressed in court. I've not heard Private Benning's testimony, so I can't speak knowledgeably to why he felt releasing this information to wikileaks was his best option.

    I personally believe that he will be adjudicated as guilty on his charges, though, because his release of information was not limited to the report on the suspected wrongdoing, but went far beyond that. I also think he was operating on about a half carton of brains rather than a full load.

    Berkeley considering this award--at this point in time--is adolescent, provocative, premature and stupid.

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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No they do not. Thank you for playing, but complete and total fail has been achieved.
    I bet even greater fail is possible, and may even be achieved.

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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No they do not. Thank you for playing, but complete and total fail has been achieved.
    LOL, OK.

    Pelosi, Reid, and Obama are the most powerful elected liberals in the world, and they are the quintessential poster children for what Berkley represents.

    But never mind.

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    Re: Berkeley Mulls Resolution to Honor Army Private Accused of Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I agree. On the other hand, given his position in the military, he may have felt his options were limited, in the same way that Daniel Ellsberg felt that he had limited means to ensure that the American public were allowed to read the report on the Vietnam War.

    That's the sort of thing that will be addressed in court. I've not heard Private Benning's testimony, so I can't speak knowledgeably to why he felt releasing this information to wikileaks was his best option.

    I personally believe that he will be adjudicated as guilty on his charges, though, because his release of information was not limited to the report on the suspected wrongdoing, but went far beyond that. I also think he was operating on about a half carton of brains rather than a full load.

    Berkeley considering this award--at this point in time--is adolescent, provocative, premature and stupid.
    Legally, if he reports a suspected wrongdoing, he is protected. He may not have ended up with the result from the information he intended, but that is how the world works sometimes. Instead, he stole the information, much/most of which he could not have had the time to review himself, and gave it to a foreign national. I don't see any way in which he is not going to end up doing major jailtime, hopefully for the rest of his life.
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