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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by Protectionist View Post
    "Lack of meaningful instances" ? LOL. It's like saying Babe Ruth wasn't a good home run hitter. What instances can anyone show of Babe Ruth ever hitting very many home runs ?"
    Statistics that highlight homerun counts. Stealth Jihad is about re-shaping western civilization with islamic law and cultural subversion... is it not? How many times has that happened? Certainly not on the scale I, or anyone not delusioned with paranoia, would call significant.

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    Do you expect Grant or me to sit here and type out the hundreds (if not thousands of examples) ?
    Thousands? Not anymore... you would've done it already had you actually been able to. Now I'll just settle for 50 or so proven instances of a change in tide toward sharia law in this country.
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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

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    OK, you haven't read the articles and have no nterest, Fair enough
    Your example failed... that's it. A muslim woman filing a lawsuit due to religious beliefs is just the same as a baptist man doing the same for the same reason... yet only the muslim woman doing so is a sign of a stealth jihadist agenda. Laughable.

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    You may feel you know better but there are many Muslims themselves who are saying otherwise.
    The are muslims that disagree with those muslims. See how we can go in circles with such a notion?
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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    The are muslims that disagree with those muslims. See how we can go in circles with such a notion?
    Yes, Muslims will disagree with Muslims, and frequently kill each other when they do, but that banality is not what's under discussion.

    If you don't understand what's being said, and are not interested in learning, there is little point in your being involved in this thread.

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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    Lol - Well, Europe doesn't have the House of Representatives to deal with. Nor the Senate. Nor the Executive. Nor the Judicial, which is pretty conservative at this point. They also don't have the 4th Estate, The Press. And finally, at least at this point, the United States is a UNIFIED nation with a strong central government, not a bunch of nation/states claiming their rights over The Union with no cohesive policy (which, ironically, is what the Federalists wanted back in the Articles of Confederation days, and what the Tea Party/Libertarians think they want now).

    In all honesty, I don't feel America has a "Muslim problem" at all, despite what those with a fear-dependent income may tell us.
    The Muslim problem exists in different degrees throughout the world. It may not be as bad in the U.S. as other countries but that doesn't mean we ignore it. I hate for peaceful Muslims to have to endure scrutiny brought on them through no personal fault of there own. But I choose not to ignore reality.

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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

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    Yes, Muslims will disagree with Muslims, and frequently kill each other when they do
    Ah... I suppose billions of peaceful muslims agree on all topics... making death the most frequent solution if disagreements ever arise.

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    If you don't understand what's being said, and are not interested in learning, there is little point in your being involved in this thread.
    To the contrary... you're not interested in mirror incidents that counter your arguments. You don't get to introduce an occurrence into the topic as if proof of some sort of stealth jihadist agenda (muslim woman suing over unpaid leave for religious trip) without acknowledging that suits over religious claims are not exclusive to any one religion... especially when I present examples. Instead, you'll resort to this "if you don't understand" routine in a trivial attempt to claim victory and move on. That card won't work.
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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    The Muslim problem exists in different degrees throughout the world. It may not be as bad in the U.S. as other countries but that doesn't mean we ignore it. I hate for peaceful Muslims to have to endure scrutiny brought on them through no personal fault of there own. But I choose not to ignore reality.
    Well, we could do what Roosevelt did with Japanese Americans, but more thorough. Inter them all.

    In the United States, there are essentially three categories of Muslims: 1) immigrants; 2) American converts/reverts to Islam; and 3) those born to the first two groups as Muslims. As of 2008, Muslims make up 2.11% of the population. I would think, given the size of the Muslim population in this country, eradication - or eternal interment - should be a piece of cake.

    We should inter them all, in Gitmo, so we can avoid complaints that people don't want to imprison possible terrorists in their states. Then we should forget about them.

    Who's next? Hasidic Jews? Catholics? Scientologists (personally, I like that idea)? Mormons? Snake-handling Pentecostals? Liberals? Conservatives? Shriners? Masons? Local Chamber of Commerce? My point is, people are afraid of Muslims, okay. But I hear no ideas, only fears. How do you resolve the fear without shredding the constitution? And where were the anti-Muslim sentiments when Mr. Bush was president? I don't get it.

    What's your solution? One that doesn't set precedence and can't easily be used against organizations and churches. I don't understand what people are thinking on this one in light of our constitution.
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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by E_Pluribus_Venom View Post
    Ah... I suppose billions of peaceful muslims agree on all topics... making death the most frequent solution if disagreements ever arise.



    To the contrary... you're not interested in mirror incidents that counter your arguments. You don't get to introduce an occurrence into the topic as if proof of some sort of stealth jihadist agenda (muslim woman suing over unpaid leave for religious trip) without acknowledging that suits over religious claims are not exclusive to any one religion... especially when I present examples. Instead, you'll resort to this "if you don't understand" routine in a trivial attempt to claim victory and move on. That card won't work.
    You're too late, E Pluribus. Although most of America is still oblivious to Stealth Jihad (they,ve doing a good job of keeping it quiet), it is not oblivious to the US Congress. Right now, Rep. Peter King (R-NY), incoming Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee is taking on the political "correctness" so common to Stealth Jihad, and has already announced that he will hold hearings on the radicalization of American Muslims ( a prime aspect of Stealth Jihad).
    So, you can come on these pages and pretend that there is no Stealth Jihad, while the US Congress is holding hearings about it, and I'm sure the many instances of Stealth Jihad from school textbooks, to university teacher propaganda, to the foot washing basins, to the pass given to illegal Muslim parkers causing traffic congestion in New York, to attempted lawsuits based on false claims of discrimination, to false claims by Muslims against protectionists (as in the Stephen Coughlin case), to all the activities uncovered in the 2008 Holy Land Foundation trial, to the Muslim Brotherhood's Project Dec. 1, 1982, to the MB's memorandum of 1991, to halal foods in restaurants and cafeterias, to Fortune 500 companies setting aside prayer times for Muslims (while non-Muslim workers keep on working), to changes in policies to allow beards and hijabs, to the millions of $$$ being lost by private companies and government agencies to provide sensitivity training to employees, so as to not offend Muslims, etc. etc. ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
    Here's a way for Muslims to not be offended. Let's just outlaw Islam in the USA entirely, convert all mosques into other uses, cancel all plans to build more mosques or Islamic centers, and make the practice of preaching Islam illegal, as it should be since it is seditious, by virtue of advocating the overthrow of the US government, by virtue of replacing the US Constitution with Sharia law.
    Unlike what the Stealth Jihadist Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf (leader of the Ground Zero mosque project) claims (that Sharia law is compliant with the US Constitution), nothing could be further from the truth. Islamic law demands total obedience to it, and to no other law. As such, it is 100% incompatible with the US Constitution (and scores of American laws) which is clear just in Article VI of the Constitution alone (the Supremacy clause) which states "This Constitution, and the laws of the United States... shall be the supreme Law of the Land.."
    So keep telling us E Pluribus, that there is no such thing as Stealth Jihad, while in the first few months of 2011, it becomes the biggest issue in US national politics, and the mainstream media finally is now forced to start reporting about it, and will be doing exactly that, day in and day out.
    BTW E Pluribus. Are you a Muslim ? Member of CAIR maybe ? ISNA ? MPAC ? Doesn't matter. Stealth Jihad, in 2011, becomes Exposed Jihad.
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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    Well, we could do what Roosevelt did with Japanese Americans, but more thorough. Inter them all.

    In the United States, there are essentially three categories of Muslims: 1) immigrants; 2) American converts/reverts to Islam; and 3) those born to the first two groups as Muslims. As of 2008, Muslims make up 2.11% of the population. I would think, given the size of the Muslim population in this country, eradication - or eternal interment - should be a piece of cake.

    We should inter them all, in Gitmo, so we can avoid complaints that people don't want to imprison possible terrorists in their states. Then we should forget about them.

    Who's next? Hasidic Jews? Catholics? Scientologists (personally, I like that idea)? Mormons? Snake-handling Pentecostals? Liberals? Conservatives? Shriners? Masons? Local Chamber of Commerce? My point is, people are afraid of Muslims, okay. But I hear no ideas, only fears. How do you resolve the fear without shredding the constitution? And where were the anti-Muslim sentiments when Mr. Bush was president? I don't get it.

    What's your solution? One that doesn't set precedence and can't easily be used against organizations and churches. I don't understand what people are thinking on this one in light of our constitution.
    The solution is (as stated in my 11:05 pm post, right here) to ban Islam in the United States, based on it's violation of Article VI of the US Constitution (the Supremacy clause).
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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, Muslims will disagree with Muslims, and frequently kill each other when they do, but that banality is not what's under discussion.

    If you don't understand what's being said, and are not interested in learning, there is little point in your being involved in this thread.
    It's beginning to appear that his point is to advance the cause of the Stealth Jihadists. Why ? Because he's one of them ?

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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by Protectionist View Post
    BTW E Pluribus. Are you a Muslim ? Member of CAIR maybe ? ISNA ? MPAC ? Doesn't matter. Stealth Jihad, in 2011, becomes Exposed Jihad.
    Ever heard of the rule of law? We have that here. It actually works until people start making exceptions based on their own, individual fears. Peter King is an ass. Always has been. Entire websites are devoted to his silliness. Here's another gem from ol' Pete.

    Republican Congressman Peter King asserted that the publication of classified diplomatic cables is, "Worse even than a physical attack on Americans."

    Really Peter? Really? People like yourself claim love and loyalty to the constitution - until it's inconvenient or difficult. Why not trust that which you claim to love? You know, the Judicial Branch of government? One of the three in the constitution?
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