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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreReborn View Post
    I am a human being and an individual first and foremost. Does that mean I should get the hell out of America?
    You're in CA so you are already out of America you just dont realize it yet.

    Yet in the eyes of Muslims, unless you are a practicing follower of Islam you are dirt. You are to be killed because in their eyes you are a serpent of the devil and your head must be severed from the body.

    So you still think that you are equal with a Muslim? Keep thinking that and one day you will come to regret it living in the pansy world of liberalism where there is the great hope that if you treat everyone the same they will expend the same courtesy back. Reality doesnt work that way and never will. There are some, like Muslims, when you expend your hand out to them, not only will they take what has been given but reach around to steal what you have in your back pocket.

    I would hope that everyone that stands up for Muslims could go to Europe and spend a day in the open markets to see how Muslims operate daily. After about an hour you would come to realize what type of society they live in. They cheat, steal and lie. They believe because you are not a fellow Muslim they can treat you any way they want. I stood and watched so many times where Muslim women would attack anyone that stood in their way. If they didnt want to pay the asking price, they would steal it thinking you were asking to much so they deserved to take it. Or if you were looking at something they wanted, they would all group around you and try and take it from you. Slapping at you if you would not give it up.
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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Duty View Post
    You're in CA so you are already out of America you just dont realize it yet.
    Really? Because last time I checked CA has extremely American policies, which imo are bad, and the US variant of government. Just because it has a large amount of hispanics doesn't mean it isn't American. If anything it shows the diversity. What is wrong with that?

    Yet in the eyes of Muslims, unless you are a practicing follower of Islam you are dirt. You are to be killed because in their eyes you are a serpent of the devil and your head must be severed from the body.
    Any proof? I know a few Muslims and none of them look at me like dirt and none of them want to kill me..

    So you still think that you are equal with a Muslim? Keep thinking that and one day you will come to regret it living in the pansy world of liberalism where there is the great hope that if you treat everyone the same they will expend the same courtesy back. Reality doesnt work that way and never will. There are some, like Muslims, when you expend your hand out to them, not only will they take what has been given but reach around to steal what you have in your back pocket.
    What is with this conservative paranoia about liberalism? Hate to break it to you but America is one of the most right wing countries in the world. And wow your ignorance and hatred to Muslims is overwhelming. Where are you getting this from?

    I would hope that everyone that stands up for Muslims could go to Europe and spend a day in the open markets to see how Muslims operate daily. After about an hour you would come to realize what type of society they live in. They cheat, steal and lie. They believe because you are not a fellow Muslim they can treat you any way they want. I stood and watched so many times where Muslim women would attack anyone that stood in their way. If they didnt want to pay the asking price, they would steal it thinking you were asking to much so they deserved to take it. Or if you were looking at something they wanted, they would all group around you and try and take it from you. Slapping at you if you would not give it up.
    This sounds like a Nazi wrote this.

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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreReborn View Post
    Really? Because last time I checked CA has extremely American policies, which imo are bad, and the US variant of government. Just because it has a large amount of hispanics doesn't mean it isn't American. If anything it shows the diversity. What is wrong with that?


    Any proof? I know a few Muslims and none of them look at me like dirt and none of them want to kill me..


    What is with this conservative paranoia about liberalism? Hate to break it to you but America is one of the most right wing countries in the world. And wow your ignorance and hatred to Muslims is overwhelming. Where are you getting this from?


    This sounds like a Nazi wrote this.
    Hey YT,

    What's your affiliation?

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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    The attitudes Islam holds toward governance in their Eastern homelands are the same as they were 50, 100, 200 years ago, when Jefferson dealt with the Barbary pirates. And centuries beyond that. Nothing new here. What the hell is with all of this moral relativism going on? We all know Islam is barbaric in its extremes. Why do people keep needing validation of this? Unless, of course, they're birthers building a case or a miserable human being looking for permission to kill someone.

    To me, the real question is this: How do Western Muslims feel about these practices? What of 2ed and 3ed generation Muslim/Americans? What about Americans and European Muslims who have been in their respective nations for centuries, serving their nations and communities honorably? What about white American converts who attend Mosque?

    I think we need to place more trust in the constitution, the judicial system, and the American spirit in general. Something like this has about as much chance of taking hold in America as Spanish being declared the national language by the Roberts Court. Cultural disdain is not going to change hearts and minds and it won't stop getting innocent people killed. The average Muslim, like your average Christian or Jew, say they believe a lot of things.
    The problem is that Europe, America and many other countries are experiencing a new wave of Muslim immigrants. This new wave of immigrants are bringing with them the hard line attitudes of their home lands. Sharia law and the strict interpretations of the Koran are making their way back in the Muslim communities that were generally peaceful in the past. The American and European Muslims are no longer isolated. They have much stronger ties to the mother land these days.

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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreReborn View Post
    I am a human being and an individual first and foremost. Does that mean I should get the hell out of America?
    While some here may contend that their cats or dogs would make better American citizens than you, I personally believe that being a human being (and an individual) is a prerequisite to said citizenship.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    The problem is that Europe, America and many other countries are experiencing a new wave of Muslim immigrants. This new wave of immigrants are bringing with them the hard line attitudes of their home lands. Sharia law and the strict interpretations of the Koran are making their way back in the Muslim communities that were generally peaceful in the past. The American and European Muslims are no longer isolated. They have much stronger ties to the mother land these days.
    Lol - Well, Europe doesn't have the House of Representatives to deal with. Nor the Senate. Nor the Executive. Nor the Judicial, which is pretty conservative at this point. They also don't have the 4th Estate, The Press. And finally, at least at this point, the United States is a UNIFIED nation with a strong central government, not a bunch of nation/states claiming their rights over The Union with no cohesive policy (which, ironically, is what the Federalists wanted back in the Articles of Confederation days, and what the Tea Party/Libertarians think they want now).

    In all honesty, I don't feel America has a "Muslim problem" at all, despite what those with a fear-dependent income may tell us.
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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by Protectionist View Post
    FALSE ! It has already taken hold in hundreds, if not thousands, of instances in daily life in the USA. Stealth Jihad Muslims have used the US Constitution and it's religious freedom, together with the ACLU, Muslim legal organizations like CAIR (right arm of Hamas in the US), and misguided "progressives" to push Islamic practices into workplaces, universities, lower grade scools, textbooks, the US government, and even the Pentagon, the CIA, and the FBI.
    Most Americans have no idea how far this Stealth Jihad has advanced.

    Stealth Jihad, Robert Spencer.

    They Must Be Stopped, Brigitte Gabriel.

    Muslim Mafia, P. David Gaubatz, Paul Sperry:

    Infiltration, Paul Sperry.

    Center for Security Policy, Shariah : the Threat to America.
    Lol. Okay. Soooo-how do you really feel? Oh, and in the future, don't scream at me and call me a liar in the same exclamation. Not only is it rude, it's arrogant and foolish. Besides, this kind of over-reaction is worthless even if you are correct.

    I suggest people have a little more faith in the nation, and the God, they claim they love and trust completely. Right now, it is not Islam destroying the fabric of the nation. Far from it.
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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    Lol. Okay. Soooo-how do you really feel? Oh, and in the future, don't scream at me and call me a liar in the same exclamation. Not only is it rude, it's arrogant and foolish. Besides, this kind of over-reaction is worthless even if you are correct.

    I suggest people have a little more faith in the nation, and the God, they claim they love and trust completely. Right now, it is not Islam destroying the fabric of the nation. Far from it.
    Now i'm really angry. I just spent 15 minutes typng up a repose to this,clicked post and the damn thing didappeared. OK look it's gooma look ugly. Tough. I'm not going to be here all day OK ?

    Now I didn't call you a liar - you were incorrect. And I didn't scream at you. I've been saying FALSE ! for 5 years in forums , and no one has ever whined about it before so lighten up.

    Now, if you think you are even remotely qualified to judge people's feelings anout Islamization you get 3 questions.

    1. How many of the 5 books I suggested have you read ? (careful - ther ecould be a quiz)

    2. Hw many of theswe people can you identify and how they'r econnected to Islamization ?

    Ibin Tamiyah, the Madhi, Sheik Ahmed Yassin, Sami al-Arian, Ramadan Abdallah Shallah, Mazen al-Najjar, Richard A. Clarke, Imam Muzzamil Siddiqui, Susan Douglas, Peter DiGangi, William Bennetta, Gilbert Sewall (pg. 96), Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, al-Hajj Talib'Abur, Rashid Sahmsi Ali, Khalid Latif, Omar Mohammedi, Joe Kaufman, Chantal Carnes, Hasan al-Banna (creator of the Muslim Brotherhood-I'll give you that one), Tariq Ramadan, Siraj Wahhaj, Mozen Mokhtar, Nouman Ali Khan, Abdul Malik (pg. 103), Imam Badawi, Br. Jawad Ahmad, Hassan Abbas, Mullah Abdul Rashid Ghazi, Sheik Mjed 'Abd al-Rahman al-Firian, Prince Sultan Ibn Abd al-'Aziz, Ali al-Ahmed, Itamar Marcus, Barbara Cook, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, Mohammed Osman Idris, Mohammed el-Yacoubi, Abu Abdullah, Baitullah Mehsud, Yunis al-Astal, Zeyno Baran (pg. 122) Aaron Klein, Muhammad Abdel-El, Sheik Yasser Hamad, Nur Mohammad, Ahmed Yassin (deceased), Sheik Abdel Rahman, Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid AL Maktoum, Abdullah Azzam, Fazlur Rehman Khalil (pg. 128), Mohammad Elachmi Hamdi, Bat Ye'or, Max Steenberghe, Anders Fogh Ramussen, Paul Jeeves (pg. 139), Yusuf al-Qarodawi, Bashar al-Assad, Robert S. Leiken, Theo Van Gogh, Michel Gurfinkel, Imam Ahmed Salam, Piet Hein Donner, Miguel Angel Toma (pg.152), Salah Yassin, Hassan Nasrallah, Ahmed Assad Barakat, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Bashar al-Assad, Adolpho Aguilar Zinser, Joseph Farah, Nabil al-Marabh, Raed Hijazi, David Harris, Syed Mumtaz Ali, Omar Ahmad, Ibrahim Hooper, Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani, Dr. Paul Williams (pg. 167), Hassan al Turabi, Clement Rodney Hampton-El, Kevin James, Warner MacKenzie, Sayeed Abdul A'la Maududi, Abdullah Yusef Ali, Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, Nessim Joseph Dawood, Mohammed Habib Shakir, Arthur John Arberry, Aqsa Parvez, Atefeh Rajabi, (pg. 179), Francis Bok, Michael Coren, Homaidan Ali Al-Turki, Sheik Saleh Al-Fawzan, Paul Marshall, Koenraad Elst, Tom Clancy, Phil Alden Robinson, Michael Graham, Thomas Klocek, STEPHEN COUGHLIN, Hasham Islam, Steven Emerson, Mordechai Nisan, Abduraman Alamoudi, Ramadan Abdallah Shallah, Musa Abu Marzook, Keith Ellison (pg. 200), Abdullah al-Arian, ,
    Jamal-al-Din al-Afghani, James Woolsey, Walid Phares, Guy Rodgers, Brigitte Gabriel, Robert Spencer,

    3. How many of these things related to Islamization can you identify and say how they are related ?

    Hijra, jizyah, Istanbul, Al-Quds, Al-Aqsa mosque, Napoleon Bonaparte (pg. 36), treaty of Al-Hudaybiyah, Oslo Accords, the Mahdi, Al-Ansar, 2006 Pentagon report : "Motivations of Muslim Suicide Bombers" (pg.63), "The Project", the Muslim Brotherhood, the Ikhwan, Taqiyya (pg. 76), Da'wa, Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), Holy Land Foundation trials - 2007 & 2008, Khalil Gibran Academy, US Treasury Dept. (Office of Foreign Asset Control), Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), Muslim American Society (MSA), United States Counterinsurgency Manual FM 3-24, US Justice Dept. report - 2004 (pg. 82), US Justice Dept. report - 2007, abeds, North American Islamic Trust, Islamic Council for North America, United Association for Studies and Research, Muslim American Youth Association, the Hamas Charter, Islamic Academy of Florida (pg. 89), Palestinian Islamic Jihad, American Youth Academy, New Horizons Schools, DawaNet—to link • to serve: Home with sections entitled "How to Make America an Islamic Nation" and Da'wa in Public Schools, Excelsior Elementary School, Thomas Moore Law Center, Islamic Saudi Academy, "The Islam Project" by the Council on Islamic Education, the Arab World History Notebook, "Across the Centuries", California Academy of Sciences, "World Cultures : A Global Mosaic", American Textbook Council (pg. 96), "Islam and the Textbooks", Arab American Family Support Center (AAFSC), Mosque of Islamic Brotherhood's Boy Scout program (MIB), Americans Against Hate, CAIR Watch, the Young Muslims, Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), Jamaat-e-Islami, Young Muslim Sisters (YMS), Middle East Media Research Institute (pg. 105), US Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF), Freedom House, Institute for Gulf Affairs, Palestinian Media Watch (pg. 110), "Contemporary Problems", "History of the Arabs and the World in the 20th Century", Reading and Text Part II, Association of Independent Schools, ISA accreditation, Center for Religious Freedom, Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami, Islamic Party of Liberation, Al-Aksa TV of Hamas, Hudson institute (pg. 119), Popular Resistance Committee, "Schmoozing With Terrorists", US House of Representitives, Abu Dhabi Investment Authority (pg.124), "Eurabia, the Euro-Arab Axis", European Union, the Arab League,"Foreign Affairs" - "Europe's Angry Muslims", Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), Sharee Council of Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, Immigration and National Security Program at the Nixon Center (pg. 140), Sukuk, Sharia compliant banks, Saxony-Anhalt, piggy banks in England, foot washing basins (Kansas City Airport & University of Michigan), "Britain's Daily Mail" - "Multiculturalsim Drives Young Muslims to Shun British Values", Nationa Intelligence Council, www.islamonline.net, "Valeurs Actuelles", the triple border region, UN Security Council, House Homeland Security Committee subcommittee on investigations report : "A Line In the Sand: Confronting the Threat At the Southwest Border", OTMs, Jamaat ul-Fuqra (pg. 156), Muslims of the Americas, the FBI, Canadian Security Intelligence Service, "TD Monthly", halal chicken, ACLU, the Date Frappuccino, Open Society Foundation, Whiting Foundation, hijab, Transportation & Safety Admin. (TSA), "New Media Journal" report - "In the Belly of the Beast: Jamaat ul-Fuqra, Jamaat ul-Fuqra mosque (Brooklyn, NY), Koran: 4:34, honor killings, the Alec file (pg. 167), Jamiyyat Ul-Islam, It's the Ideology Stupid,Tad-ru-bu-hu-nna, Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (pg. 177), UN Children's Fund, the Population Council - 2003 survey, m'uta, Haratines, Janjaweed, Dinka tribe, "Escape From Slavery" (pg. 185), Toronto Sun online - "Slavery Lives in the Sudan", Middle East Forum - "The Problem with Slavery", Saudi Arabia Senior Council of Clerics, Human Rights Watch, Middle East Forum, Copts, Baha'i sect of Islam, "Islam : From Toleration to Terror" (pg. 188), Hizb ut-Tahrir, Jyllands-Posten, "The Sum of All Fears" (pg. 193), University of South Florida, Palistinian Islamic Jihad, "Future Jihad" (pg.215),

    Beginning to get an idea of how much you don't know ? or how unqualifed you are to use words like "over-reaction" ?

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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    What is a "fear-dependent income" Kev316?

    Julian Assange?
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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Arrest made in plot to blow up area military recruiting center

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    What is a "fear-dependent income" Kev316?

    Julian Assange?
    It's cheese related.

    People fear being without cheese, and thus...

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