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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Yes, the Repubicans have certainly shown us they have no real concern for the deficit. Hypocrites!
    How about answering the question, since when is keeping more of what you earn an expense to the govt? It isn't the government's money thus I don't see a line item for the expense. If projections for revenue are down then do what you have to do, cut spending.

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't seem to have a clue, Reagan didn't give the rich anything. Do you understand the concept of earning your own money and thus having it taken by the govt? I worry about people like you. No matter how many times it is explained to you, you come back with the same argument over and over again.

    There are no tax cuts, there is an extension of the current tax rates or a tax hike. Obama extended the Bush tax cuts saying it was good for the country. You now saying that President you worshipped is wrong?

    As for Medicare and Social Security, they are funded separately and have no business ON budget. Education is a state responsibility so why is the a line item for Education? You just found 125 billion to cut, good job, keep going.
    Thats nothing more that Republican BS.....and BTW...when have I ever "worshipped Obama". I have said from day 1 that he was going to turn out to be way too moderate for my tastes and compromise way too much to the republicans to appeal to the center. He has not done anything that I didn't expect. I had hoped for better, but expected nothing less.

    Please.....Reagan gave the rich the biggest handout in the history of this country and we have been paying the price as a nation ever since. You Republicans love to talk the "family values" line, but there hasn't been anything more destructive to the family unit and family cohesion in this country than Republican policies.
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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    complete BS. the dems were the ones who pushed huge tax hikes on the rich. tax hikes we never really needed.

    but FDR violated the tenth amendment and massively increased the government

    there is your answer about how to "fund" tax cuts which are not handouts

    handouts are given liberal voters MY money so they will vote for the people who TAKE my money

    that is a handout
    Funny how you guys like the change history.
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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How about answering the question, since when is keeping more of what you earn an expense to the govt? It isn't the government's money thus I don't see a line item for the expense. If projections for revenue are down then do what you have to do, cut spending.
    Why do you guys always expect everything for free?

    Its always "it MY money"...."My Money"....."mine mine mine". Part of living in this country is paying for the services provided.

    I don't mind paying my taxes at all....I consider it part of being a responsible and patriotic American. I don't expect a free ride.
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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Thats nothing more that Republican BS.....and BTW...when have I ever "worshipped Obama". I have said from day 1 that he was going to turn out to be way too moderate for my tastes and compromise way too much to the republicans to appeal to the center. He has not done anything that I didn't expect. I had hoped for better, but expected nothing less.

    Please.....Reagan gave the rich the biggest handout in the history of this country and we have been paying the price as a nation ever since. You Republicans love to talk the "family values" line, but there hasn't been anything more destructive to the family unit and family cohesion in this country than Republican policies.
    wrong-tax cuts aren't a handout for people who were and continue to pay far more than their fair share



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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What dodge?
    The one where your post never once answered this question:

    Really? Please tell me what Republican thing in this bill is specifically ADDING money to the deficit?
    in response to this statement

    I expect to hear none of these right-wing Republicans complaining about the size of the deficit over the next two years....seeing that the GOP will be responsible now for adding trillions to the deficit.
    Which was clearly referencing the current topic of this thread.

    GWB gave the wealthy huge tax breaks and drove our country to economic disaster.
    And water is mixed with powder to create a skyscraper. Seriously, its absolutely ridiculous to try and sum up the entire economic struggles based on a singular issue such as this. There is no logical, reasonable, nor justifiable way to even begin to place every ounce of blame on the economic situation we're in singularly on tax cuts "for the wealthy".

    Not to mention, not the topic of this thread. This thread is about the framework of the extension of these cuts under Obama.

    Now Republicans think that continuing these same failed economic policies is what we need to do to rescue our economy? So.....how are you proposing that we fund continuing these Bush hand outs?
    Your earlier dodging question? I was refering to BS like this you're posting.

    Oh look, you're still dodging. Let me ask one more time to see if you actually will answer.

    Please tell me what Republican thing in this bill is specifically ADDING money to the deficit?

    Somehow I'm guessing you're going to dodge yet again.

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Funny how you guys like the change history.
    so you want to argue why FDR threatened to pack the USC after the Schechter Poultry decision and suddenly the USC ignored 130+ years of precedent?

    OK



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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Thats nothing more that Republican BS.....and BTW...when have I ever "worshipped Obama". I have said from day 1 that he was going to turn out to be way too moderate for my tastes and compromise way too much to the republicans to appeal to the center. He has not done anything that I didn't expect. I had hoped for better, but expected nothing less.

    Please.....Reagan gave the rich the biggest handout in the history of this country and we have been paying the price as a nation ever since. You Republicans love to talk the "family values" line, but there hasn't been anything more destructive to the family unit and family cohesion in this country than Republican policies.
    I am still waiting for you to explain how people keeping their own money is an expense to the govt? Cooledge, JFK, Reagan, and GW Bush GAVE the American people nothing as that money was never theirs to give. Guess we need a little more of those California family values, right?

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    i'm gonna clue a few of you in because (LOL!) i've really come to enjoy some small affection for you, personally

    before you EVER click and submit your, umm, thoughts, you really need to pause, oh, maybe for a second or 30, and think---what headlines are likely to appear tomorrow (or even the day after) in ap, the nyt, lat, boston globe, wapo, politico, cnn, abc, reuters, the telegraph, guardian, bloomberg...

    pretty much ALWAYS, it is not in the least difficult to foresee

    and if you ever get in the practice of practicing forethought, well, within a few months you'll find that you've really upped your political gamesmanship, you're really starting to see and understand what's going on

    it's stunning, astonishing, really, how this president simply cannot do this, he is eyes-squeezed-shut blind to the next move, he sets himself up again and again and again

    it's a big (but not the only) part of his problem

    you really should force yourself to LINK more, too, it will elevate your awareness of the political landscape outside your own precious little thought processes

    until you do, you will always be an amateur in the presence of pros

    you can't see tomorrow's headlines in time mag, mark halperin, msnbc's morning panel, rachel and keith and ed, shrill little chrissy matthews, politico?

    i can tell you now---they are going to demolish the arguments you so carefully click and submit this evening

    you're as out of touch as the seeming alien occupying our white house

    of course, as always, more power to you

    try to maintain your dignity in these tuff times, either way
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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The one where your post never once answered this question:



    in response to this statement



    Which was clearly referencing the current topic of this thread.



    And water is mixed with powder to create a skyscraper. Seriously, its absolutely ridiculous to try and sum up the entire economic struggles based on a singular issue such as this. There is no logical, reasonable, nor justifiable way to even begin to place every ounce of blame on the economic situation we're in singularly on tax cuts "for the wealthy".

    Not to mention, not the topic of this thread. This thread is about the framework of the extension of these cuts under Obama.



    Your earlier dodging question? I was refering to BS like this you're posting.

    Oh look, you're still dodging. Let me ask one more time to see if you actually will answer.

    Please tell me what Republican thing in this bill is specifically ADDING money to the deficit?

    Somehow I'm guessing you're going to dodge yet again.
    Sorry...but if you cannot understand how continuing 2 trillion in tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans without funding them will not add to the deficit....then nothing I can say here will help you. THAT is basic econ 101.

    Those cuts helped our economy out so GREAT the first time around now didn't they? What is it about you Republicans that you keep wanting to try the same old trickle down failed economics and expect different results?
    Last edited by disneydude; 12-07-10 at 11:58 PM.
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