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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    for the love of God, i feel like i'm talking to a damn wall...carry on conservative, carry on...i forgot, you are an expert on everything, and everyone else is an expert on nothing. my bad, i forgot
    now you know....Conservative and his empty sock puppets have a limited view of economics. Blinders, rose tinted glasses, and selective hearing are all "assets" to the far right...
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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You could be that same expert if only you did your own research and put the partisanship aside. There are some great non partisan sites that actually report data but apparently those sites aren't nearly as good as projecting the opinions of others with an agenda.
    you post links to sites that support your views on the surface, without digging deeper, in attempt to understand how these sites arrive at their conclusions. this doesnt make you an expert , never will. but carry on, that seems to be your M.O.

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    now you know....Conservative and his empty sock puppets have a limited view of economics. Blinders, rose tinted glasses, and selective hearing are all "assets" to the far right...
    Right, non partisan sites the provide actual data are sock puppets with a limited view of economics. Why the personal attacks lately? Focus on responding to the facts presented and quit diverting from those facts. It is a sign of desperation when you make this personal instead of keeping it focused on actual results. Refute the NBER, BLS, BEA, and Treasury Data if you can.

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Notice your response to most posts, "decent jobs", "fair wage", "evil rich!" Notice a pattern here? Personal responsibility only exists at certain levels in your world.

    You want to define what a decent job, fair wage, and those evil rich people by your own standards without knowing the financial situation for those that you defend. You speculate and project based upon what you are told and ignore history and research tools available to you. For some reason the 47% that don't pay any Federal Income taxes doesn't bother you nearly as allowing those that do pay taxes to keep more of their money. That is a slippery slope you are on and wonder if you feel that your income and ability to keep more of what you earn is an expense to the Federal Govt?
    and this rant of yours has exactly what to do with the post you quoted?? and please show me where i have called the rich 'evil'...me thinks you be projecting again.
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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    you post links to sites that support your views on the surface, without digging deeper, in attempt to understand how these sites arrive at their conclusions. this doesnt make you an expert , never will. but carry on, that seems to be your M.O.
    What you seem to lack is a basic understanding of non partisan facts and actual data. There is nothing to understand or reason to delve into how they arrived "at their conclusions." The data is the data and came from the actual results. You don't like the data then change the results, don't attack the messenger.

    Your passion for the liberal ideology is hard to understand. Data refutes that ideology but it appears that you simply cannot accept actual data and facts.

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    and this rant of yours has exactly what to do with the post you quoted?? and please shoe me where i have called the rich 'evil'...me thinks you be projecting again.
    Right, focus on the "evil" rich and ignore that you want to define decent jobs and fair wage which is more to the issue. You have no problem taking more money from the rich because that doesn't affect you thus you ignore the question I raised about you keeping more of what you earn being an expense to the govt?

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What you seem to lack is a basic understanding of non partisan facts and actual data. There is nothing to understand or reason to delve into how they arrived "at their conclusions." The data is the data and came from the actual results. You don't like the data then change the results, don't attack the messenger.

    Your passion for the liberal ideology is hard to understand. Data refutes that ideology but it appears that you simply cannot accept actual data and facts.
    no reason to 'delve' into how they arrived at their numbers...? so everything people tell you you take at face value, no need to do a further investigation, as long as it sounds 'right' to you, its all good? no sense in doing further research, god forbid you should find something that doesnt quite jive with your world view.

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, focus on the "evil" rich and ignore that you want to define decent jobs and fair wage which is more to the issue. You have no problem taking more money from the rich because that doesn't affect you thus you ignore the question I raised about you keeping more of what you earn being an expense to the govt?
    again, please show me where i have used the term 'evil rich' .....if you can't find it, i'll expect a retraction.

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    no reason to 'delve' into how they arrived at their numbers...? so everything people tell you you take at face value, no need to do a further investigation, as long as it sounds 'right' to you, its all good? no sense in doing further research, god forbid you should find something that doesnt quite jive with your world view.
    LOL, keep diverting from the post. They arrived at the data by actually capturning actual results, a concept you have a problem understanding. Results matter, not rhetoric. What exactly has Obama accomplished that isn't captured in that data?

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, keep diverting from the post. They arrived at the data by actually capturning actual results, a concept you have a problem understanding. Results matter, not rhetoric. What exactly has Obama accomplished that isn't captured in that data?
    back on target conservative, stay on target, stay on topic...you have yet to provide where i have ever called the rich 'evil'....still waiting for an apology and a retraction of your statement.....you must be so embarrassed, admitting you do no actual research, no need to 'delve' into something further, if it supports your view.

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