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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Your entire post could have been, "He did something that not even a conservative president would have done but **** him anyways that's why."
    Interesting poll

    Mid-June Consumer Spending Returning to New Normal

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

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    The National Bureau of Economic Research

    Last Four Recessions and their Durations
    12/07 - 6/09 18 months
    3/01 - 11/01 8 months
    7/90 - 3/91 8 months
    7/81 - 11/82 16 months
    so......???? the nbe thinks the recession is over...it is their opinion....if its over, how do you propose to explain that to those who are still looking for work? recession isnt over for them....just because the dja is going up, doesnt mean this recession is over for everyone...

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    so......???? the nbe thinks the recession is over...it is their opinion....if its over, how do you propose to explain that to those who are still looking for work? recession isnt over for them....just because the dja is going up, doesnt mean this recession is over for everyone...
    How long should they collect unemployment? We are proposing north of 3 years if this passes.


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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    so......???? the nbe thinks the recession is over...it is their opinion....if its over, how do you propose to explain that to those who are still looking for work? recession isnt over for them....just because the dja is going up, doesnt mean this recession is over for everyone...
    NBER is a non profit, non partisan agency that has been the keeper of economic data for experts. They seem to be the expert when every other Administration is in office but interesting not now. The fact is due to the Obama economic policies this is a jobless recovery. He has done nothing to promote the private sector and that is why there aren't any jobs created. He doesn't understand business at all nor do many here. No business is going to hire when the cost of hiring is uncertain due to his policies. This new tax deal will help however. Now add that to defunding Obamacare and then you will see job growth.

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    so......???? the nbe thinks the recession is over...it is their opinion....if its over, how do you propose to explain that to those who are still looking for work? recession isnt over for them....just because the dja is going up, doesnt mean this recession is over for everyone...
    IF the Dow is a benchmark for good or bad president, look at where it was when he was elected and where it is now. Obama must be a genius !!!
    Plus, this recession kicked people while they are down, and a lot of small investors are going to remember the big banks are the ones doing the kicking. Losing a house and all the money invested in it is going to be fresh in our memories for a long time.
    2 of my immediate neighbors walked away from their houses, the banks just would not work with them...
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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    IF the Dow is a benchmark for good or bad president, look at where it was when he was elected and where it is now. Obama must be a genius !!!
    Plus, this recession kicked people while they are down, and a lot of small investors are going to remember the big banks are the ones doing the kicking. Losing a house and all the money invested in it is going to be fresh in our memories for a long time.
    2 of my immediate neighbors walked away from their houses, the banks just would not work with them...
    The Dow is a barometer for corporate profits and performance. With 16 million plus unemployed Americans payroll is way down and for every dollar of expense cut that is a dollar to the bottom line profit. Liberal logic today is stock market an indication of how good Obama is whereas the 14000 stock market under Bush was an indication of a recession and corporate greed

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How long should they collect unemployment? We are proposing north of 3 years if this passes.


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    if the edonomy was balls to the wall, and we were creating decent jobs at a record pace, i could see scaling back on the unemployment.....while wall street may be recovering, while the djia maybe going up, job creation hasnt caught up yet.....are you seriously going to argue with me that it is? 'conservative' likes to argue that these people on unemployment are nothing but lazy cheetoh eating, beer swilling , cable tv watching slobs who don't want to work, so cut them off now! while on the other hand screaming about 12-16 million unemployed and how it is all obama's fault....which is it? either we have millions upon millions of available jobs for these people, or we don't..conservative tries to have it both ways....use unemployment to bash obama on one hand, screaming that he is a job killer, and on the other saying all those on unemployment are nothing but lazy bums and don't want to work(implying that their are jobs available for them) ...can't have it both ways. i'm hopeful that the economy catches fire, and we start creating a ton of jobs, i'm hopeful that this will be the last extension.

    I'm all for people getting back to work, nothing would please me more than for this country to be able to get the vast majority of these people off the unemployment rolls and into decent jobs, into gainfull employment, turned back into productive, tax paying citizens.

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    NBER is a non profit, non partisan agency that has been the keeper of economic data for experts. They seem to be the expert when every other Administration is in office but interesting not now. The fact is due to the Obama economic policies this is a jobless recovery. He has done nothing to promote the private sector and that is why there aren't any jobs created. He doesn't understand business at all nor do many here. No business is going to hire when the cost of hiring is uncertain due to his policies. This new tax deal will help however. Now add that to defunding Obamacare and then you will see job growth.
    for the love of God, i feel like i'm talking to a damn wall...carry on conservative, carry on...i forgot, you are an expert on everything, and everyone else is an expert on nothing. my bad, i forgot

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    if the edonomy was balls to the wall, and we were creating decent jobs at a record pace, i could see scaling back on the unemployment.....while wall street may be recovering, while the djia maybe going up, job creation hasnt caught up yet.....are you seriously going to argue with me that it is? 'conservative' likes to argue that these people on unemployment are nothing but lazy cheetoh eating, beer swilling , cable tv watching slobs who don't want to work, so cut them off now! while on the other hand screaming about 12-16 million unemployed and how it is all obama's fault....which is it? either we have millions upon millions of available jobs for these people, or we don't..conservative tries to have it both ways....use unemployment to bash obama on one hand, screaming that he is a job killer, and on the other saying all those on unemployment are nothing but lazy bums and don't want to work(implying that their are jobs available for them) ...can't have it both ways. i'm hopeful that the economy catches fire, and we start creating a ton of jobs, i'm hopeful that this will be the last extension.

    I'm all for people getting back to work, nothing would please me more than for this country to be able to get the vast majority of these people off the unemployment rolls and into decent jobs, into gainfull employment, turned back into productive, tax paying citizens.
    Notice your response to most posts, "decent jobs", "fair wage", "evil rich!" Notice a pattern here? Personal responsibility only exists at certain levels in your world.

    You want to define what a decent job, fair wage, and those evil rich people by your own standards without knowing the financial situation for those that you defend. You speculate and project based upon what you are told and ignore history and research tools available to you. For some reason the 47% that don't pay any Federal Income taxes doesn't bother you nearly as allowing those that do pay taxes to keep more of their money. That is a slippery slope you are on and wonder if you feel that your income and ability to keep more of what you earn is an expense to the Federal Govt?

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    for the love of God, i feel like i'm talking to a damn wall...carry on conservative, carry on...i forgot, you are an expert on everything, and everyone else is an expert on nothing. my bad, i forgot
    You could be that same expert if only you did your own research and put the partisanship aside. There are some great non partisan sites that actually report data but apparently those sites aren't nearly as good as projecting the opinions of others with an agenda.

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