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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    The answer to budget shortfalls is not increasing the amount they are short by. That also increases the national debt and is less stimulative to the economy. Letting Hershey's keep more money does not automatically mean that people will buy more candy bars.
    Letting Hershey keep more of their money isn't an expense to the taxpayer, paying unemployment payments is

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Repubs ain't got jack ****! Obama isn't a king althoughI know good union members like yourself would like it to be so. These proposals have to pass House and Senate, and because of your demo reps it doesn't look likely.

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    all praise obama, blessed be his name... ....like i said, repubs got what they wanted, now they are trying to figure out how obama screwed them...lol

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No, that's the politically correct version of what is really meant.

    You must live in a cave. The PC version would be "recycle the rich"

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    It was an analogy ffs. He's not saying the Republicans literally have Americans in a room with a gun to their heads, he's saying that in politics the other side naturally holds out to get things they want. Make one analogy and all of a sudden you're compared to mass murderers and Islamic fundamentalists. You got 10 times more than you should have gotten. A lot of house Dems are absolutely furious at him for supporting this (or at least they're acting that way, whether they're actually disappointed is another question). I won't be sad when Obama goes, that's for sure.

    Personally I'll be glad to see politics go back to the Republican agenda actually being passed by Republicans.

    Alone it may have been, but when he has used "bitter clingers"... taped from a private fund raiser, and recently calling Repubicans "enemies" during the last election... on Mehikana TV... he's revealed his true self. It was absolute idiocy. Unpresidential. And this guy said he had tremendous judgment!!!!!!!!!!

    Obama has jumped the shark.

    Show soon to be canceled.

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    The lack of demand is what limits growth. If you don't need to produce more widgets, you won't hire more people.
    I don't have the first clue what a widget, but I want one...
    and there is something to consider. If our economy is based solelly on NEED, it will be a poor economy. The profits, and the larger part of our economy, are in our wants....most of our needs are already accomplished.
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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Actually, things were much better before those tax cuts.
    And I suppose you liked those 18 percent interest rates on home loans in the early 80s, too?

    Optimism spurned the 80s resurgence, not high taxes. Getting rid of Carter with a small-government platform gave business and investors reason to act; hence, the turnaround. Getting rid of trumped-up gasoline rationing helped. Showing the world we meant business (such as Iran) helped. Speaking openly of American exceptionalism helped.

    As soon as we started putting the 60s liberals at bay, things started turning around.[/QUOTE]

    I was thinking of the 90's. But if you want to go back to when we were arguably the most powerful nation, we can go back to the 50's if you would like.
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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So you take taxpayer money, give it to somebody to spend, so it can be taxed as income and revenue again, so you can give it back to the same person.........

    It's insanity. It's like paying your Visa bill with your Mastercard.
    Good point, that is insane...
    But consider also the term stupid, because carrying credit card debt is exactly that, stupid...
    I am willing to have pity for the insane, but not the stupid..
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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    psssst it is "Eat the rich!"
    too much fat in rich people, I prefer a nice lean liberal....
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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    And I suppose you liked those 18 percent interest rates on home loans in the early 80s, too?

    Optimism spurned the 80s resurgence, not high taxes. Getting rid of Carter with a small-government platform gave business and investors reason to act; hence, the turnaround. Getting rid of trumped-up gasoline rationing helped. Showing the world we meant business (such as Iran) helped. Speaking openly of American exceptionalism helped.

    As soon as we started putting the 60s liberals at bay, things started turning around.
    What I love about liberals is they pick and choose the parts of any period of time that they like and ignore anything that refutes their feelings. You want to give Clinton credit but ignore that the Congress was controlled by the Republicans who repealed most of the Clinton tax increases and in fact cut taxes in 1997. Then you want to ignore the tough question, did Clinton sign GOP Budgets with more or less spending proposals? Clinton got credit for the what Republican Congress did and Bush got the blame for what the Democrat Congress did. Obama is not getting the blame for anything that happened the last two years with a Democrat Congress. That is liberal hypocrisy.

    I was thinking of the 90's. But if you want to go back to when we were arguably the most powerful nation, we can go back to the 50's if you would like. [/QUOTE]

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    Re: Obama Announces 'Framework' for Deal With Congress to Extend Bush-Era Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Letting Hershey keep more of their money isn't an expense to the taxpayer, paying unemployment payments is
    Ah, but running a budget deficit is an expense to future taxpayers. Tax cuts for the wealthy certainly don't address the debt. Remember, decreasing revenue is the most important thing to the GOP right now.

    Take up the extension of unemployment payments with Boehner and McConnell. They support adding to the debt apparently.
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