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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    This regime gets the credit when things go well...........the inverse is also true.
    I never saw them get credit for dealing with the oil spill the way they did...

    When has Obama recieved credit for anything? Give me examples?

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I'm just not sure that what he's done is, in international terms, illegal. Or, if we have any standing to prosecute him. He's not a U.S. citizen. Just because something is damaging to our national interests does not necessarily make it illegal. It may be, but I'm not sure what our rights are in this scenario. I don't believe that they are nearly as clearcut as you think they are.

    If they were, we'd have already issued warrants for his arrest and/or convened a grand jury, even in absentia.
    Well first of all you don't have to be a citizen of a country to be prosecuted by its justice system. Foreigners get executed all the time in Thailand for selling drugs in the country and that's completely fine with international law. (That was an extreme example, of course)

    Secondly, whether he has or has not achieved those files illegally that's for the judges to call, one cannot simply take to one claim or another. (Even though it's hell more likely that he has acheieved them illegally)

    As to why the US state department is not issuing arrest warrants, that might be due to blackmailing by Assange. I've heard he has some super-secret documents that he threatens to release if he is to be arrested by the US.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    This regime gets the credit when things go well...........the inverse is also true.
    What should Obama have done to prevent/respond to this, in your opinion?

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am claiming that your claim that the "left" think 9/11 was an inside job is bull****, and I am claiming you have made no effort to back up that claim.

    By the way, Jones says he does not believe 9/11 was an inside job.
    Really?

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    What should Obama have done to prevent/respond to this, in your opinion?
    The only answer some conservatives have is to put a bullet through Assanges head.

    Doubt that would stop the leaks though, since the issue isn't actually Assange, it's the people leaking the info.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Here's another perspective that asks many of the same questions that I've been thinking/asking here:

    The Shameful Attacks on Julian Assange - David Samuels - International - The Atlantic
    First sentence of your article:

    Julian Assange and Pfc Bradley Manning have done a huge public service by making hundreds of thousands of classified U.S. government documents available on Wikileaks
    That alone tells me everything I need to know about the article. What has been done here is in no way a "public service". The kindest thing that can be said about them is that they are assholes and in at least one case a criminal and disgrace to his uniform.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Yet the difficulties of documenting official murder in Kenya pale next to the task of penetrating the secret world that threatens to swallow up informed public discourse in this country about America's wars. The 250,000 cables that Wikileaks published this month represent only a drop in the bucket that holds the estimated 16 million documents that are classified top secret by the federal government every year. According to a three-part investigative series by Dana Priest and William Arkin published earlier this year in The Washington Post, an estimated 854,000 people now hold top secret clearance - more than 1.5 times the population of Washington, D.C. "The top-secret world the government created in response to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become so large, so unwieldy and so secretive," the Post concluded, "that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs, how many programs exist within it or exactly how many agencies do the same work."

    The result of this classification mania is the division of the public into two distinct groups: those who are privy to the actual conduct of American policy, but are forbidden to write or talk about it, and the uninformed public, which becomes easy prey for the official lies exposed in the Wikileaks documents: The failure of American counterinsurgency programs in Afghanistan, the involvement of China and North Korea in the Iranian nuclear program, the likely failure of attempts to separate Syria from Iran, the involvement of Iran in destabilizing Iraq, the anti-Western orientation of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and other tenets of American foreign policy under both Bush and Obama.

    It is a fact of the current media landscape that the chilling effect of threatened legal action routinely stops reporters and editors from pursuing stories that might serve the public interest - and anyone who says otherwise is either ignorant or lying. Every honest reporter and editor in America knows that the fact that most news organizations are broke, combined with the increasing threat of aggressive legal action by deep-pocketed entities, private and public, has made it much harder for good reporters to do their jobs, and ripped a hole in the delicate fabric that holds our democracy together.
    Please stop acting like sheep.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I never saw them get credit for dealing with the oil spill the way they did...When has Obama recieved credit for anything? Give me examples?
    He shouldn't, that was a disaster. If you approve of him, you toot his horn. I"ll wait until he actually does something right.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That alone tells me everything I need to know about the article. What has been done here is in no way a "public service". The kindest thing that can be said about them is that they are assholes and in at least one case a criminal and disgrace to his uniform.
    Yeah. God forbid that you expose your already-informed opinion to different perspectives.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Controversial Obama Administration Official Denies Being Part of 9/11 "Truther" Movement, Apologizes for Past Comments* - Political Punch

    In a statement issued Thursday evening Jones said of "the petition that was circulated today, I do not agree with this statement and it certainly does not reflect my views now or ever."
    Do you?

    Now, back to your wild claim that the "left" believes 9/11 was an inside job...
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