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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Its not the information, its the motivation of the characters.... If siprnet held troop locations. Do you think either of these two dirtbags wOuld have held back?


    This is not about "transparency" for traitor manning or assface. It was about retaliation for being scorned and anti-amerucanism. Nothing more or altruistic about it.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Anti-Sovietism, the greatest of offenses.

    If what Assange did was anti-American, then damn it I'm anti-American too. Want to line him up to a firing post? Line me up too. And millions more.

    All this talk about Obama mass graves, and it might actually come true D:
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Lets pose a scenario here. Lets say that China does all that is in the link I previously provided and the weapons end up in terrorist hands as posed in that link. Those terrorists decide to use one of those weapons on US soil. Which do you think would be more beneficial to the US? Embarressing China by releaseing that info before the attack or keeping it a secret and people finding out that China were the ones that sold those weapons when they knew it could get into terrorist hands? Which do you think would cause more harm?
    Ok, so we out it and embarrass China who in turn cuts off ties with the third party that was supplying us with the information in the first place, and that third party then won't talk to us on anything ever again because they feel that we are untrustworthy with information. Short term gain, long term damage.

    Lots of things. More than I can list at the moment. But keeping secrets is definately NOT one of them.
    Yeah, cuz secrets are always bad....Come on man.

    Sorry, not even going to bother with grendel.
    Um...Ok....Why? The article contained was written by this man:

    Arnaud de Borchgrave

    Appointed Editor-in-Chief for The Washington Times on March 20, 1985, de Borchgrave is currently Editor-at-Large of The Washington Times and United Press International, as well as Project Director for Transnational Threats (TNT) and Senior Advisor for The Center for Strategic and International Studies[4][5] .

    Arnaud de Borchgrave - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Although I can understand why you wouldn't want to actually read, or rebut anything that so destroys your argument, it is telling.

    I have already been honest. Whats your point?
    Not quite....you won't consider anything informed that gets in the way of your open society mantra. And when presented with evidence to the contrary you dismiss it, or won't read it...That sir, is just not being honest in debate.

    Actually yes I can state so. The 1st amendment applies to everyone. Not just American citizens.
    Actually, I don't view our constitution as a global shield, especially when it is only pulled out to protect an enemy from prosecution, and any other time it is dismissed.

    The espionage act however since it is not a part of the Constitution but is a US law does not apply outside of the US jurisdiction.
    I believe there is precedent that proves your hypothesis wrong, I will search.

    And btw, as has already been linked and showed in this thread a news source can be applied to anything that disseminates news.
    Let me stop you there...WikiLeaks is not a news source. Never has been, never will be.

    In regards to Manning, most definately.
    More than just PFC Manning sir.

    Over all, yes we do care for those civilians killed. But with things like the following happen you have to wonder sometimes...
    War is difficult. I think you have to ask what the motive for releasing this footage is? It certainly is not pure.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    Anti-Sovietism, the greatest of offenses.

    If what Assange did was anti-American, then damn it I'm anti-American too. Want to line him up to a firing post? Line me up too. And millions more.

    All this talk about Obama mass graves, and it might actually come true D:



    Commit espionage, and I'll volunteer to put a bullet in your head myself....
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    Anti-Sovietism, the greatest of offenses.
    This is an interesting opener you have penned sir, are you, or would you consider yourself, "Pro-Soviet"?


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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This is an interesting opener you have penned sir, are you, or would you consider yourself, "Pro-Soviet"?


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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This is an interesting opener you have penned sir, are you, or would you consider yourself, "Pro-Soviet"?


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    I think he was likening Rev's attitude towards Soviet attitudes.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Present and accounted for...
    Yeah we know.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    I think he was likening Rev's attitude towards Soviet attitudes.
    Oh, because I thought it was sarcastic considering the body of the rest of his post.


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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Commit espionage, and I'll volunteer to put a bullet in your head myself....
    Why? It doesn't put your life in danger. It just exposes the **** in the white house. I thought that is what everyone wanted. Or did everyone want it on the surface but not expose how deep it really runs?

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