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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I thought there were two complaints against the man. From two different women.
    There are, both the same complaint: No condom. I don't really consider that rape, as we understand the term in the U.S. Apparently, the sex was consensual, but the not-wearing-the-condom was non-consensual.

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    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opini...onspiracy-6080

    •The Sordid and Suspicious Story

    The Daily Mail's Richard Pendlebury investigates what he says is the entire story of what happened in Sweden, which he says reveals "several puzzling flaws in the prosecution case." Pendlebury even includes blurred photos of the two accusers. A key moment comes when "the female [Swedish police] interviewing officer, presumably because of allegations of a sabotaged condom in one case and a refusal to wear one in the *second, concluded that both women were victims: that *Jessica had been raped, and Sarah subject to sexual molestation."

    Pendlebury concludes:
    The Stockholm police want to question [Assange] regarding the possible rape of a woman and separate allegations from another Swedish admirer, with whom he was having a concurrent fling. But there remains a huge question mark over the evidence. Many people believe that the 39-year-old *Australian-born whistleblower is the victim of a U.S. government dirty tricks campaign. They argue that the whole squalid affair is a sexfalla, which translates loosely from the Swedish as a 'honeytrap'.

    •It's More Complicated--And Could Be Rape
    Feministe's Jill Filipovic, a lawyer, says it could be considered "withdrawal of consent," which is a form of sexual assault, if the sex became non-consensual during the act. In the first case, when his condom broke, Assange refused his partner's request to stop, which made his act assault. In the second case, "condom use was negotiated for and Assange agreed to wear a condom but didn’t, and the woman didn’t realize it until after they had sex." Filipovic says "withdrawal of consent" is often considered rape in Sweden, but is often not in the U.S., which may be why U.S. observers seem not to believe the charges.
    I stand by my original post...swedish people are weird.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Man accused of rape, and what not, must be a huge government conspiracy, the two women who accused the man, must be lying.......


    That's the nonsense I am talking about. Let the trial go through, but this conspiracy bunk crap belongs in the conspiracy crapper.
    I'd suggest that you read up on the charges.

    'Sex by Surprise' at Heart of Assange Criminal Probe
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Deception vitiated consent.

    Assange told the woman he was going to wear a condom. But when the lights went out, he took out a packet of Alka-Seltzer, ruffled the packaging to make it appear he opened a condom pack. Then he plunged ahead commando style. Bad man.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Am I the only woman on earth who thinks sex is a fantastic surprise?

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Assange told the woman he was going to wear a condom. But when the lights went out, he took out a packet of Alka-Seltzer, ruffled the packaging to make it appear he opened a condom pack. Then he plunged ahead commando style. Bad man.
    What, was she a virgin? How did she not notice this? No offense, y'all, but sex with a condom is like screwing a balloon. You'd have to be highly intoxicated or extremely high to miss the difference.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Am I the only woman on earth who thinks sex is a fantastic surprise?
    There are many people for whom sex is a fantastic surprise. Unfortunately, most of them are blindfolded and ballgagged before the surprise is administered.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    There are many people for whom sex is a fantastic surprise. Unfortunately, most of them are blindfolded and ballgagged before the surprise is administered.


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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    It seems wikileaks is currently closed..

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    There are, both the same complaint: No condom. I don't really consider that rape, as we understand the term in the U.S. Apparently, the sex was consensual, but the not-wearing-the-condom was non-consensual.

    p.s. Swedish people are strange.

    p.p.s. More clarification.

    Julian Assange Rape Charges: Serious Crime or Anti-WikiLeaks Conspiracy? | The Atlantic Wire



    I stand by my original post...swedish people are weird.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I'd suggest that you read up on the charges.

    'Sex by Surprise' at Heart of Assange Criminal Probe
    What he have here is supposition and the word of Assange's lawyer. I do not know all the details of the charge against him, but it could be more than this.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What he have here is supposition and the word of Assange's lawyer. I do not know all the details of the charge against him, but it could be more than this.
    Umm..did you not even read the full article that I linked to? Or did you just read the first few paragraphs where Assaunge's lawyer is talking?

    According to a police report obtained by the Daily Mail in August, she and Assange had sex, and at some point the condom broke. While she was apparently not happy about the condom breaking, the two were seen the next day at the seminar, and nothing appeared amiss.
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    The other woman accompanied her to the police station on Aug. 20 just to support her but then told the investigating officer on duty that she, too, had had sex with Assange, Aftonbladet reported..
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    Kjellstrand's decision was overruled the following day by a higher-level prosecutor, Eva Finne, who withdrew the arrest warrant and said she did not see any evidence for rape allegations.

    Then, on Sept. 1, a third prosecutor, Ny, re-opened the rape investigation, implying that she had new information in the case.

    On Nov. 18, Swedish judicial officials approved a prosecutorial request that Assange be detained for questioning for alleged sex crimes, and on Nov. 30 Interpol issued a "red notice" against Assange for alleged sex crimes in Sweden. Despite what has happened, the woman who organized the event and had Assange stay at her apartment told Aftonbladet that she never intended that Assange be charged with rape.

    "It is quite wrong that we were afraid of him. He is not violent, and I do not feel threatened by him," she told the newspaper in an interview that did not identify her by name. "The responsibility for what happened to me and the other girl lies with a man who had attitude problems with women."
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