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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Really? So I'm the guy who was never in any way prepared to run a country the size of the us. I'm in charge of one of the world's largest security apparatus's I'm the one who allowed hundreds of thousands of documents onto the hands of one, lone, private with an ax to grind because I didn't give gays eveything I promised them in order to get their votes. Gee, thanks for pointing out all this. This is so much better than blaming mr bush.
    Guess personal responsbility only matters when it's convenient.

    So, demand that the patriot act be struck down, and top secret clearance be mass rescinded? You gonna do that?

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Wikileaks if you actually read through this last leak was actually confirming exactly what we do know. The US is a force for good, and many of these other countries play a two faced game of back room dealing while stating something else publically.
    Yeah. I don't get why people are so wound up about it. Is some of this stuff potentially embarrassing to us? Sure. But there is nothing that makes us immune to such things.

    All we can really do is change the way that classified data is handled in government systems and move forward.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What I do find odd is how some folks here are all over these two women as liars and what not, given we don't have all the information.

    Wikileaks if you actually read through this last leak was actually confirming exactly what we do know. The US is a force for good, and many of these other countries play a two faced game of back room dealing while stating something else publically.
    It is a Swedish weird law of not pulling out in time that is the issue and she had a merry old party after the alleged rape

    And US isn't one of those countries?
    US is as dirty as any other country in the world. It is not a force for Good. It is a force for its own interest.
    Nothing more or less. There is little doubt in my mind after reading through much of the wikileaks that US would fund wars or evil if it coincided with its countries best interest


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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Those 3 or more million people were probably the ones running and inputting information into the system. We're not talking about publicly available information. .
    Just because something is not publicly available does not mean it is a criminal act to possess it.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Technically, an embassy would be US soil, but the difference is that Assange is not seeking out info, he is not arranging for it to be stolen, he's simply acting like any media organisation would when given info, he shares it, and the fact that he doesn't seek the info means he can't be tried under the 1917 espionage act, which is the only law he's even close to breaking.
    Aye, but what's left to check is whether or not the Wikileaks organization was involved in the stealing of the information.
    You cannot simply declare that it did and you cannot simply declare that it did not, as you weren't observing the event of stealing and you are not aware of the facts that regard to Wikileaks' involvement.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    US is as dirty as any other country in the world. It is not a force for Good. It is a force for its own interest.
    Nothing more or less. There is little doubt in my mind after reading through much of the wikileaks that US would fund wars or evil if it coincided with its countries best interest
    We're cleaner than some. For instance, we don't incarcerate people for being gay (Cuba, Iran, etc.). We don't incarcerate people for daring to suggest that tainted milk killed his child (China).

    On the relative scale of evil in the world, we're lightweights.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Aye, but what's left to check is whether or not the Wikileaks organization was involved in the stealing of the information.
    An individual, Bradley Manning, has already been arrested and charged with stealing the information. NO ONE has suggested that Assange was involved in the theft of classified information.

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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Just because something is not publicly available does not mean it is a criminal act to possess it.
    Depends. If it's classified(private), and you've acheieved it illegally, then it's considered theft, and theft is illegal in most countries I guess.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It is a Swedish weird law of not pulling out in time that is the issue and she had a merry old party after the alleged rape
    Dunno.... Let the facts fall where they may. My guess is he doesn't survive the trial.


    And US isn't one of those countries?
    US is as dirty as any other country in the world. It is not a force for Good. It is a force for its own interest.
    Nothing more or less. There is little doubt in my mind after reading through much of the wikileaks that US would fund wars or evil if it coincided with its countries best interest

    We are as dirty as Iran? N. Korea? S. Arabia? read the leaks and you see we are a force for good. Others are a force for thier own agenda. Of course so are we, but ours is less nefarious.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Depends. If it's classified(private), and you've acheieved it illegally, then it's considered theft, and theft is illegal in most countries I guess.
    For the forty-seventh time, Assange didn't have the means to steal this information. He published it. Publication of classified information is not a crime in the U.S. It's the release of information by someone with security clearance (Bradley Manning) that is the only crime in the case.

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