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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Bull****. We don't live in a freaking fascist regime....YET.
    I just havta' wonder if it's any different from living under a inept one...........
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Uhhh, that would be me........and all of al qaeda's potential victims.
    So?
    You are American.
    Ofc you care about your law.

    Why should the rest of the world? Why should it apply to those outside of your borders.
    If US is going to start applying its law on those outside of its borders. Well I think we Non Americans deserve an equal say. I await my ballot for the US Presidential Elections :P


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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It is very bogus.

    Here is a photo of his accuser:



    Her name is Anna Ardin. She has worked for several groups connected with the CIA. If the US wants Assange destroyed that badly, they have got a crapload of wrongdoing that they are attempting to hide.

    And, BTW, Assange is not charged with rape or molestation, as the mediawhores are claiming. He is charged under a strange Swedish law called sex by surprise, because he did not use a condom. LOL.

    Can't wait to see what is in that poison pill that is about to get dropped on us by Wikileaks. I bet it's going to be damn good.



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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I just havta' wonder if it's any different from living under a inept one...........
    Yes it is different. We got through Bush's "regime" still fundamentally American, but we would not do so under a fascist regime.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The U.S. does not have an official secrets act. Bradley Manning is being prosecuted for violating his security clearance requirements and leaking the cables/classified reports. But, Julian Assange never had security clearance, and publishing this classified data on a European server is not a crime.


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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The US is going after those who took part in this.

    His nationality is irrelevant. To use an example to illustrate(I realize that the comparison is not exact), if a Soviet had gone to Europe and tried to get some one at a US embassy to give him secret information, he would be guilty of spying, even though he has not entered the US, nor was he a US citizen.
    Technically, an embassy would be US soil, but the difference is that Assange is not seeking out info, he is not arranging for it to be stolen, he's simply acting like any media organisation would when given info, he shares it, and the fact that he doesn't seek the info means he can't be tried under the 1917 espionage act, which is the only law he's even close to breaking.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So you get to determine what the law is? My statement was factually correct(we don't determine the law) and has nothing to do with fascism. Prosecuting some one for breaking the law is hardly fascist. Emotional rhetoric at it's finest. Op ed pieces and rhetoric does not make for good debate.
    There is no law on the books that he's broken. We are capable of determining that, at least.

    Common sense suggests that if he'd broken a law, the U.S. would already have issued a warrant and/or convened a grand jury.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    What I do find odd is how some folks here are all over these two women as liars and what not, given we don't have all the information.


    Wikileaks if you actually read through this last leak was actually confirming exactly what we do know. The US is a force for good, and many of these other countries play a two faced game of back room dealing while stating something else publically.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Actually I believe the blame lies with you.

    All of you.

    After 9/11 you were all too ready to hand over your civil rights in return to security.

    And now a monster of a security apparatus with almost a million people have access to Top Secret files, and you wanna blame Obama and Bush? THIS IS WHAT YOU ASKED FOR!

    With a million people having that kind of access, both in Government and some in Private security firms, DID YOU NOT THINK THIS MIGHT BE A PROBLEM?!?!?!

    But go ahead, score your cheap political points, but if you're looking for the blame, you need only look in the mirror.
    Really? So I'm the guy who was never in any way prepared to run a country the size of the us. I'm in charge of one of the world's largest security apparatus's I'm the one who allowed hundreds of thousands of documents onto the hands of one, lone, private with an ax to grind because I didn't give gays eveything I promised them in order to get their votes. Gee, thanks for pointing out all this. This is so much better than blaming mr bush.
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    Re: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange arrested in London

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Some clarification is needed.

    1. He turned himself in. He was not "arrested" in the classic form of the term with police hunting him down and throwing him in cuffs.
    Agreed, he presented himself to the police. The courts have now refused bail on him.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    2. The case for sending him to Sweden is very weak. One of the women in question is a known feminist who believes men dominate women and need to be punished.
    The case is for extradition is strong - the only argument he has against the European Extradition order is that he wouldn't get a fair trial in Sweden or that his human rights wouldn't be respected there. It's not like he's being extradited to Iran for example. That's not to say the trial will be fast - there are ways his lawyers can slow down the supposed fast track process.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    3. And the rule of law has to be followed. This has nothing (in theory) to do with the Wikileaks situation and even in Sweden the case against him is very weak to say the least. Many are saying it is an overzealous prosecutor that is going after him.
    At first glance, the case against him looks dubious - certainly woman A throwing a party for him after he'd supposedly raped her doesn't look good when she then claims he raped her.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What law exactly has he broken to be brutally honest? Over 3 million people had access to this information on a daily basis before it was leaked.. it was hardly hugely secret stuff.
    Those 3 or more million people were probably the ones running and inputting information into the system. We're not talking about publicly available information.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    As for the latest leaks.. pft, the Russians already knew that lol, so freaking what.
    It's one thing Russia having word of certain information - quite another to have confirmation of US and NATO plans regarding the defence and numbers to defend the Baltic nations. Wikileaks went too far in releasing that particular information.

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