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List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

Really. So you're saying that the U.S. wouldn't disappear him if it was believed to serve our best interests? And, concern about this wouldn't be normal?

I do not think the US is going to do that. Condemning a country because you think they might do something but have zero proof is silly. Blackmail is still blackmail, and trying to force people to do what you want by threatening them is classless. If the US is going to "disappear him", it would probably already have happened.
 
A federal government that can completely stifle public discourse by deeming certain topics "classified" is neither weak nor small. If you really wanted a small/weak federalist government, you'd see the dangers here.

We need a smaller government but strong defense department
 
I'd settle for a competent government.

Good luck with that. I have started voting constitution party since the GOP and democrats both abuse their power and spend to much
 
Good luck with that. I have started voting constitution party since the GOP and democrats both abuse their power and spend to much

I generally vote republican but not out of any affection for them. I see them as a useful block to democratic party ambitions.
 
I am also enjoying the spectacle, but then I don't have a dog in the fight. If is causes problems for the USA government, all the better. :shrug:

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Then you DO have a dog in the fight. Be honest.
 
From the BBC:



BBC News - List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

This latest leak makes abundantly clear that Mr. Assange is less interested in transparency than in publicizing U.S. vulnerabilities and practices. One is no longer dealing with embarrassing diplomatic cables. Instead, a strategic inventory of sites has been disclosed. This latest leak is of potentially significant value to U.S. enemies, as they have in their possession a list of critical facilities that they could target.

IMO, no nation can or should allow its critical or vital interests to be threatened with impunity. The U.S. should act either through appropriate legal channels to bring Mr. Assange to justice or, if such options are not available, through covert means so that he can be prosecuted. It should not allow its national security to be undermined without acting to bring an end to that situation.

No. What this proves is that the people in the know are idiots. Who do not deserve their clearances since they do not understand on how to keep things secret. Or the people who released this info to Mr. Assange were double agents feeding him inaccurate intel.

You cannot expect for Mr. Assange to worry on one nation's security. If that nation itself does not protect itself from traitors. Those traitors being the agents who released the info to him.
 
No. What this proves is that the people in the know are idiots. Who do not deserve their clearances since they do not understand on how to keep things secret. Or the people who released this info to Mr. Assange were double agents feeding him inaccurate intel.

You cannot expect for Mr. Assange to worry on one nation's security. If that nation itself does not protect itself from traitors. Those traitors being the agents who released the info to him.

Funny how this didn't happen under Bush but has under Obama
 
Funny how this didn't happen under Bush but has under Obama

What's your point? I may not like Obama (indeed he is the first President of the US that I can honestly say that I hate) but I'm certainly not going to go blaming him for something that was not in his control. No more than I blame Bush for what happened on 9/11. Unless of course you have some kind of proof that Obama purposely ordered Manning to leak info?
 
Funny how this didn't happen under Bush but has under Obama

Abu Garib??? Also wikileaks took years for getting this type of stuff. So chances are it is partisan bs that started with the election of a black president from the democrat party. Strange how some of the biggest traitors to this nation are all republicans?
 
Abu Garib??? Also wikileaks took years for getting this type of stuff. So chances are it is partisan bs that started with the election of a black president from the democrat party. Strange how some of the biggest traitors to this nation are all republicans?

Talk about partisan bs. :roll:
 
Talk about partisan bs. :roll:
You obviously did not get what I was saying. I was calling him out for being against Obama for being a member of the wrong party and nothing else.
 
What's your point? I may not like Obama (indeed he is the first President of the US that I can honestly say that I hate) but I'm certainly not going to go blaming him for something that was not in his control. No more than I blame Bush for what happened on 9/11. Unless of course you have some kind of proof that Obama purposely ordered Manning to leak info?


He is responsible for his administration. If their are leaks he is responsible.
 
Abu Garib??? Also wikileaks took years for getting this type of stuff. So chances are it is partisan bs that started with the election of a black president from the democrat party. Strange how some of the biggest traitors to this nation are all republicans?

We do not have a black president we hava a half white president. Multi racial if you prefer. How do you know it took years. The records are all there and it all could have been leaked in the last year.
 
Abu Garib??? Also wikileaks took years for getting this type of stuff. So chances are it is partisan bs that started with the election of a black president from the democrat party. Strange how some of the biggest traitors to this nation are all republicans?

There are many versions of America. Treason to one version is loyalty to another version.
 
Then you DO have a dog in the fight. Be honest.
Actually, no I don't have a dog in this particular fight. I am just an outside observer. :popcorn2:

I just cheer anything that causes distress to this USA administration. :clap:

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Productive in what way? What do you consider a productive viewopint on the admin?

Well, I can say that generalized applauding of anything that causes the U.S government distress is unproductive, in my book.
 
Well, I can say that generalized applauding of anything that causes the U.S government distress is unproductive, in my book.
That would depend on your POV, would it not?

I am only talking about the current administration. They are a bunch of buffoons. We have great relationships with many in the USA government in both parties.


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