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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    I suppose someone has considered the possibility that Mr. Assange and Co. are being used by the US (and perhaps others?) to spread misinformation? Cause that's what I would do - have people "leak" him info to confuse my enemies...

    Perhaps THAT's why we aren't trying to stop him any harder...
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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    He's pretty clearly in violation of the Espionage Act, sections 793(b) and 793(c).
    Does U.S. code apply to people who aren't living in the U.S. or are citizens of the U.S?
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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Does U.S. code apply to people who aren't living in the U.S. or are citizens of the U.S?
    Personally I don't see how our laws could apply to someone that doesn't live in the US and has never been a US citizen. Now if they had committed a crime while they were inside the US then yeah our laws should apply. But the guy has never been to the US AFAIK and even if he has been he certainly is not in the US now or at the time of the leaks.

    Forcing our laws onto non-citizens not in our country is wrong.
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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Does U.S. code apply to people who aren't living in the U.S. or are citizens of the U.S?
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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    He hasn't broken any laws.
    Then how did he get this information?

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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The documents that are being leaked are not top-secret. They are classified, which means that there are perhaps 1 million people in the U.S. (out of 300 million) that have access to them. That would include any and all federal analysts, investigators, and a hefty percentage of military personnel.

    It's important to understand the difference between classified material and top secret material. There are a ton of documents that are listed as classified that probably shouldn't be. A comparable issue is "law enforcement sensitive" material.

    Boyfriend was telling me that many military personnel have access to this stuff through the base computer systems.
    You proved my point. Government employees are part of the Obama administration. He needs to find out how this information is getting released and fix it

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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Any serious terrorist group or world government would already know all of the locations on that list. It's redundant information.

    Am I the only person in this world that thinks that while state security is important, that maybe if countries and officials conducted themselves and their affairs with honesty, integrity, and transparency, that maybe people like Assange wouldn't be able to garner any kind of attention at all?

    Example: My colleagues and I correspond on a continuous basis by email. If our email servers were hacked, and our emails published, I can guarantee you that none of our clients would be overly distressed or surprised. And that includes several that have some fairly bad words in them.

    So, if the company that I work for can keep our chatter and planning civil, how is it that entire branches of government - who are accountable to multiple layers of supervision and oversight - can't even seem to make a simple communique fit to be read by the community at large?

    People have no right to be angry at Assange. He is a media agent. If you value free speech then you shouldn't care. The problem is the sources that are leaking the info within your own country. Take responsibility for your own actions. Hypocrites.
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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There is nothing about U.S. Federal Code which seems to apply to people who don't live in the U.S. and were never citizens of the U.S.
    That information is the property of the United States Government. I would think that it doesn't matter where Assange was at, when he stole it.
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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    And calls for him to be treated as a terrorist, killed etc are not threats?

    What he said is not a threat, but a warning if he is killed, thrown into gitmo etc, that truely US national security information will be released.
    R U acting as an apologist for people who are arguably endangering American or friendly Afghan lives?

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