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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Classified material was released without government permission. A leaker is illegally releasing information.
    The one that stole the information is the one that leaked the information. Since wikileaks did not steal the information they are not the ones that leaked the information. They just posted the already leaked information.
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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    What laws were broken, Honorable Ptif, Esquire? Be specific. And were they broken under our jurisdiction, or in a country in which our laws have zero jurisdiction?
    If they can prosecute him, they will. There's been no definitive decision -- unless you're making it here.
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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Classified material was released without government permission. A leaker is illegally releasing information.
    That leaker is being charged and prosecuted. Can you explain what Julian Assange has done that is illegal?

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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If they can prosecute him, they will. There's been no definitive decision -- unless you're making it here.
    The simple fact that they have not charged him with anything despite the fact that it is quite obvious that Mr. Asaunge has published this info would indicate that they have no clear right in prosecuting him legally. It doesn't take years (using pentagon papers for a starting point) to come up with charges for something so obvious.
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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If they can prosecute him, they will. There's been no definitive decision -- unless you're making it here.
    What I'm telling you is that...

    1) I don't believe that the action he took was illegal based upon our existing laws.
    2) We have zero jurisdiction in this case (It did not occur in the U.S.).
    3) We have zero jurisdiction over Assange (he is not a U.S. citizen and is not subject to our laws).

    Should we prosecute him? If we do, I guarantee that it will result in a bigger black eye than these leaks ever would have.

    Let me ask you... can Kenya prosecute him for releasing information on the killings of approximately 500 young men with tacit governmental and law enforcement support? Would you support them doing so? How is the situation with Kenya different than the situation with the U.S. leaks?

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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes laws were broken. But not by wikileaks.
    So releasing known stolen info is not illegal. He did not go through proper channels so I think the Attorney General can find a law he broke.

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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So releasing known stolen info is not illegal. He did not go through proper channels so I think the Attorney General can find a law he broke.
    Because that's totally how we should do business, as a country.

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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That leaker is being charged and prosecuted. Can you explain what Julian Assange has done that is illegal?
    Must be something since the US is seeking extradition.

    How the U.S. can now extradite Assange - WikiLeaks - Salon.com

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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Must be something since the US is seeking extradition.

    How the U.S. can now extradite Assange - WikiLeaks - Salon.com
    Yes, that's perfectly rational. Tell me...if China did it, would it also be legal?

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    Re: List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That leaker is being charged and prosecuted. Can you explain what Julian Assange has done that is illegal?
    He wouldn't wear a condom. That's a capital offense. Off with his head.

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