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    Re: Rear-view cameras on cars could become mandatory

    It's a good idea in my opinion. It could cost you ~$120 extra to purchase a vehicle but well worth it.
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    Re: Rear-view cameras on cars could become mandatory

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    If you have ever cared for a child killed this way (and I have) then you cannot argue with this
    Legislation by anecdote/emotion is never a good thing.

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    Comparisons with the success of other auto-safety programs can be shown below:


    Thanks, I hope this helps.
    Your chart shows a program that reduced fatalities by approximately 10,000/year. This would reduce fatalities by some fraction of 300/year.

    People are overlooking the fact that a rear view camera does not mean that all those deaths/injuries would be eliminated. People will still back up without using them or hit people even where they look at the cameras.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This is no different than requiring cars to have seatbelts or air bags.
    Seatbelts save almost 10,000 lives per year at a cost of maybe $50/car. This technology would be approximately 100X less cost-effective than seatbelts.

    Look, I'm sympathetic to the argument of "think of the children!," but you can't just say that because something might save a few lives, it's automatically a good idea regardless of cost. Where do we draw the line? Should we require every car to have absolute and excessive top of the line safety features? Do you think that every car should cost $25k+?
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    Re: Rear-view cameras on cars could become mandatory

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Your chart shows a program that reduced fatalities by approximately 10,000/year. This would reduce fatalities by some fraction of 300/year.
    Considering the investment is minimal, the technology already exists in many new cars anyways, it seems like a good idea to reduce fatalities and property damage.

    Seatbelts save almost 10,000 lives per year at a cost of maybe $50/car. This technology would be approximately 100X less cost-effective than seatbelts.
    Cameras would cost about $50 per car as well. I think you are seriously over-estimating the cost of the technology.
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    Re: Rear-view cameras on cars could become mandatory

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The federal government is getting ready to mandate that all new cars have rear-view cameras by 2014. Back-over crashes are responsible for 300 fatalities and 18,000 injuries per year...44% of which are children and 33% of which are the elderly.

    Rear-view cameras on cars could become mandatory - latimes.com
    I don't mind them making them mandatory on new vehicles.

    I prefer they don't try to force me to put one on my truck, though.
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    Re: Rear-view cameras on cars could become mandatory

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Considering the investment is minimal, the technology already exists in many new cars anyways, it seems like a good idea to reduce fatalities and property damage.
    Again, those aren't the only factors. There are 300 fatalities a year. That is a very small number. The cost of the investment is only one factor in evaluating cost-effectiveness.

    Cameras would cost about $50 per car as well. I think you are seriously over-estimating the cost of the technology.
    No, I'm using the numbers provided in the articles in this thread. Even at $50/car, that still means it's about 1/100th as cost-effective as seatbelts. I think you are seriously overestimating the impact of this mandate.
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    Not every good idea MUST be made into law.
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    Re: Rear-view cameras on cars could become mandatory

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Not every good idea MUST be made into law.
    You don't seem to understand how legislation works.

    1) I think something is a good idea.
    2) I'd be willing to pay my share (maybe).
    3) LITTLE KIDS are DYING.
    4) ???
    5) We have to pass a law that makes it mandatory for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    You don't seem to understand how legislation works.

    1) I think something is a good idea.
    2) I'd be willing to pay my share (maybe).
    3) LITTLE KIDS are DYING.
    4) ???
    5) We have to pass a law that makes it mandatory for everyone.
    No, I get it. You left out:

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    Re: Rear-view cameras on cars could become mandatory

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Again, those aren't the only factors. There are 300 fatalities a year. That is a very small number. The cost of the investment is only one factor in evaluating cost-effectiveness.
    It's not JUST about fatalities, it's about injuries and property damage as well as insurance costs and repairs that come from accidents that these cameras could help prevent.

    Look at it from a consumer standpoint; I may have to pay even an extra $200 for the system, but I save that when I avoid backing into someone else's bumper and having to pay for their repairs and my insurance premiums go up. That sounds like a good deal for me.
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    Re: Rear-view cameras on cars could become mandatory

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Considering the investment is minimal, the technology already exists in many new cars anyways, it seems like a good idea to reduce fatalities and property damage.


    Cameras would cost about $50 per car as well. I think you are seriously over-estimating the cost of the technology.
    Where do you get the cost of $50.00 per car?

    On cheaper cars they so not have screens to show what is on the camera so that will have to be added to the cost of the vehicle.

    A screen or a special mirror will cost a lot more than $50.00.

    Maybe the camera alone will cost that but not the way to view it insode the car.

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