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    Re: Net closes on Assange: arrest by British police expected in days

    He has been doing this for four years and I have yet to see any allegations that him releasing documents lead to deaths...I think this whole "it puts lives in danger" is totally blown out of proportion.
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    Re: Net closes on Assange: arrest by British police expected in days

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Source: The Independent

    Here's hoping he can get himself out of this.
    How exactly is a rape case "serious organised crime?" I smell a rat here

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    Re: Net closes on Assange: arrest by British police expected in days

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Here's to Assange resisting and getting shot down in the road, like a dog.
    WHAT! What exactly has he done? I'm just wondering. Has he done anything that deserves an execution in the street? Why do you want him to resist and be killed? Furthermore, who on earth randomly kills a man for resisting arrest on alleged "sex crimes" that amount to nothing more than a media overreaction? They want him for questioning, they haven't even charged him with anything.

    I'm guessing that since we've pointed out numerous times before that it's NOT illegal for a civilian (let alone a NON AMERICAN CITIZEN ON A SITE NOT HOSTED IN AMERICA) to publish classified documents that you want something extrajudicial to be done. Do you want them to summarily execute him? Do you want them to just imprison him without charges? What on Earth happened to America?

    I thought conservatives were bastions of free speech and against government secrecy. Now I find out they want Assange's head on a pike for NO LEGAL REASON. So I ask the question... if there's nothing that can be done though US law... then what are you suggesting? And if you think that something CAN be done through US law, please explain specifically WHAT, and under which law.

    As far as I'm concerned, as an Australian born myself, he's a national hero. I downloaded some of the leaks. Execute me too if you want to execute Assange.

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    Re: Net closes on Assange: arrest by British police expected in days

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave
    How exactly is a rape case "serious organised crime?" I smell a rat here
    It's not a rape case. See the thread I just started in this subforum.
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    Re: Net closes on Assange: arrest by British police expected in days

    PayPal just shut down the account they used to solicit donations, citing a rule about accounts that solicit funds that may be used to conduct illegal activities.

    Hope they get this scumbag Assange and prosecute him until end of days.

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    Re: Net closes on Assange: arrest by British police expected in days

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    PayPal just shut down the account they used to solicit donations, citing a rule about accounts that solicit funds that may be used to conduct illegal activities.

    Hope they get this scumbag Assange and prosecute him until end of days.
    *Copy and pastes my above comment*

    Also, Paypal is obviously doing this to cover their asses in the case that something happens. I don't see how this is a legal indictment of Wikileaks, again, can you please answer my above comment?
    Last edited by SirPwn4lot; 12-04-10 at 11:54 AM.

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    Re: Net closes on Assange: arrest by British police expected in days

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    *Copy and pastes my above comment*

    Also, Paypal is obviously doing this to cover their asses in the case that something happens. I don't see how this is a legal indictment of Wikileaks, again, can you please answer my above comment?
    There is no legal indictment that anyone can charge Assange for. Governments are just angry that his organization released diplomatic documents and want to get back up him for revealing their lies and deceit.
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    Re: Net closes on Assange: arrest by British police expected in days

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    There is no legal indictment that anyone can charge Assange for. Governments are just angry that his organization released diplomatic documents and want to get back up him for revealing their lies and deceit.
    I'm open to any legitimate legislation they can point to. But I have seen none. Can some of you who are calling for his imprisonment cite some legislation he's violated? I also don't see how the United States can charge a non-citizen for a "crime" (again, I need to know the law) that wasn't even "committed" on US land. Furthermore I don't see how they can charge Wikileaks but not all the other media organizations (Fox News, MSNBC, print media, foreign media, etc, etc) that has ALSO spread the cables. I don't see any difference between them.

    Thanks in advance for your speedy reply.

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    Re: Net closes on Assange: arrest by British police expected in days

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    *Copy and pastes my above comment*

    Also, Paypal is obviously doing this to cover their asses in the case that something happens. I don't see how this is a legal indictment of Wikileaks, again, can you please answer my above comment?
    Maybe you could do $.02 of your own google searching to get some info yourself. Here's a link, but you'll have to read it:

    WikiLeaks founder could be charged under Espionage Act

    WikiLeaks founder could be charged under Espionage Act
    Whether he will eventually be charged or not, we'll have to see. But if he is, then we need only have him nabbed in a country that will extradite him to the U.S. The crime need not be "committed on U.S. land" as some have claimed. It need only involve U.S. property, of information we deem of national concern (as in a spy who comes here, takes pictures for espionage purposes, then leaves), and we can surely charge him if we have a statute to do so.

    Like I said, the issue is will we charge him, and then will we be able to have him extradited.

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    Re: Net closes on Assange: arrest by British police expected in days

    I have come across this, but I thought we had discussed this charge enough.

    Very well, the Espionage Act has never been successfully prosecuted against a media organization. Brandenburg v. Ohio established that "imminent lawless action" is required for the government to prosecute speech. New York Times Co. v. United States established precedent that the media had a right to release classified materials, regardless of government claims of the need to maintain secrecy.

    Eric Holder evidently thinks he's got some chance. Let's see, but Wikileaks will mount a strong defense.

    I'd be interested in the outcome of charges, if it comes to that, and hopefully this will provoke a constitutional review of the Act. Numerous Supreme Court decisions have limited it, but none have completely overruled it.

    Thanks!
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