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House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

and that affects you how? You are not a billionaire, probably not even a millionaire, yet you middle worry about them so much. Is that attitude in the bible or something?

I'm not even in the middle and I don't read the bible.
I just don't think taking from people just because they have more than I do, is fair.
Everyone should have skin in the game. I don't think it would be right for me to vote for higher taxes on the rich but not on myself. That's why I am a conservative and vote Republican.
I think everyone should pay the same %. The more you make, the more you pay and no class envy at least over income taxes. No holding yourself of your business back in fear of higher tax brackets either. Like Obamacare, if you employ over 50 people it'll cost you dearly. Who in their right mind with 45 employees will decide to expand?
 
if you want to speak of logic, where is the logic in giving the rich another tax cut? it obviously hasnt done what you claimed it would do...WHERE ARE THE JOBS CONSERVATIVE, WHERE ARE THE JOBS?

How about we just don't raise the taxes on them? Oh and by the way how about we just don't raise the taxes on the middle class while we're at it?
I wonder how many will be wondering where their "cut" is when all is said and done.
Look at the title of this thread "House passes Middle-Class Tax Cut" Many of those who don't keep up with Dem speak will be looking for that "tax cut" on their paychecks.
 
Right pawner. people in Texas .. well schucks alive ... they are more than mere people ... they are Texans by gawd.... check that ... they are TEXANS .... not fear'd of nutin .... taller than most trees ... stronger than a ape in the jungle and twice as smart too. they have plenty of jobs there and don't you even think about comin down to get yerself one .... y'hear?

You betcha!
 
don't worry about me bud....is it pissing you off my constant asking of where are the jobs? then answer the question..you are the one wanting to cut all benefits for those out of work...just exactly what do you expect these people to do? please don't give the line of bs with 'personal responsibility' or mention texas again, as texas apparently doesnt have enough jobs for its citizens...where are the jobs conservative?

Hate to break it to you but you are the last person on this thread that I would worry about as you have made your own bed, sleep in it.

As for cutting benefits to those that are unemployed, yep, after 2 years they should be stopped completely. How do you know how many jobs TX has? Have you had anyone from Ohio come here and not get a job?
 
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I just got an invitation to "send Steve off to washington" at the Queen City Club on December 15th. even though I am not in his district I gave him alot of money and met with him to discuss pro gun strategies

He has a great supporter in Price Hill. My Father in Law was sick when he lost the last time and overjoyed this time.
 
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He has a great supporter in Price Hill. My Father in Law was sick when he lost the last time and overjoyed this time.

well the GOP will control redistricting and hopefully steve will get a more friendly district so he cannot get beat if the Obama hordes show up again in 2012
 
I ask again since there has not yet been an honest answer:

if we cuts taxes for the rich and the economy improves creating more wealth for the rich and more for corporations but there is no job growth for the bottom 20% who are now hurting, is that good for American society?

or lets try it this way

If that scenario happens, would you still advocate cutting taxes on the rich knowing that it will not produce the jobs for the lower 20%?

No one is talking cutting taxes for anyone. The only thing they want to happen is INCREASING taxes on the wealthy. The dems want an increase. The republicans want taxes to stay the same.
Raising taxes on anyone is not a good idea at this time.
 
Hate to break it to you but you are the last person on this thread that I would worry about as you have made your own bed, sleep in it.

As for cutting benefits to those that are unemployed, yep, after 2 years they should be stopped completely. How do you know how many jobs TX has? Have you had anyone from Ohio come here and not get a job?
apparently you don't know how to do research...you don't have enough jobs for your own citizens.....7.8% unemployment....again conservative, where are the jobs you would shift all those unemployed to? what do you expect those people to do? again, no personal storys, no 'personal responsibility crap'...how are these people supposed to live? how do they feed their kids? figured i ask the last one as you are opposed to all aid programs.
 
apparently you don't know how to do research...you don't have enough jobs for your own citizens.....7.8% unemployment....again conservative, where are the jobs you would shift all those unemployed to? what do you expect those people to do? again, no personal storys, no 'personal responsibility crap'...how are these people supposed to live? how do they feed their kids? figured i ask the last one as you are opposed to all aid programs.

Is that right? Again you are an expert on TX just like you are a legend in your own mind on just about every other issue. Do you know what full employment is in this country and in the state of TX? Bet we are closer to full employment in TX than you are in Ohio. But then again you miss the point as usual. The people of TX are so miserable and unhappy that they elected another 20 Republican legislators this last election. I know this probably escaped your research but two divisions of Caterpillar just moved to TX from Illinois bringing thousands of jobs. Companies from California are also relocating to TX so the beat goes on. Keep showing your total and complete ignorance when it comes to both economics, civics, and business. You do that so well.

As for unemployment benefits, I quite frankly have zero respect for individuals that take two years to get a job. For those that need to eat, go to the local charities, churches, or community as that is where that responsibility lies. I don't think the people of Florida, TX, or any other state should be funding unemployment in the state of TX and that is what happens when the Federal Govt. gets involved. Obviously you don't understand personal responsibility at all.
 
Is that right? Again you are an expert on TX just like you are a legend in your own mind on just about every other issue. Do you know what full employment is in this country and in the state of TX? Bet we are closer to full employment in TX than you are in Ohio. But then again you miss the point as usual. The people of TX are so miserable and unhappy that they elected another 20 Republican legislators this last election. I know this probably escaped your research but two divisions of Caterpillar just moved to TX from Illinois bringing thousands of jobs. Companies from California are also relocating to TX so the beat goes on. Keep showing your total and complete ignorance when it comes to both economics, civics, and business. You do that so well.

As for unemployment benefits, I quite frankly have zero respect for individuals that take two years to get a job. For those that need to eat, go to the local charities, churches, or community as that is where that responsibility lies. I don't think the people of Florida, TX, or any other state should be funding unemployment in the state of TX and that is what happens when the Federal Govt. gets involved. Obviously you don't understand personal responsibility at all.
true colors, conservative, true colors, your philosophy is 'screw everyone else, i got mine'....again conservative, stay with me this time...where have all these 'jobs' been that these people are supposed to have found....and yes conservative, i know what 'full employment' is considered to be, 95%....your still lacking of hitting that...where are the jobs, where are the jobs.....
 
true colors, conservative, true colors, your philosophy is 'screw everyone else, i got mine'....again conservative, stay with me this time...where have all these 'jobs' been that these people are supposed to have found....and yes conservative, i know what 'full employment' is considered to be, 95%....your still lacking of hitting that...where are the jobs, where are the jobs.....

Yep, that is me, nailed it, congratulations! You are indeed a legend in your own mind. Where are the jobs? Ask Obama, he lost 4 million of them in two years. You hired him to clean up the "Bush" mess and what did he do? Added 4 million to the unemployment roles! Now Obama wants to raise taxes on the top 2% and you again continue to buy the rhetoric. Please name for me just one economic prediction that Obama has made that has been accurate? Just one. Now of course this one? Extending the tax cuts for the top 2% will COST 700 billion dollars. I am still waiting for an explanation as to how allowing people to keep more of what they earn is an expense to the govt? You bought it, now explain it?
 
Guess you didn't get your newest IPad or IPhone which makes it a depression for you.

So you're arguing the economy is booming? Thanks for giving me my good laugh for the day.

Now it is Reagan's fault that Obama has lost 4 million jobs in 2 years and added 3 trillion to the debt?

No, that's Bush's fault.
 
So you're arguing the economy is booming? Thanks for giving me my good laugh for the day.



No, that's Bush's fault.

Quite an accomplishment for a "dumb" Texan who has been out of office for 2 years? Would love to have you explain that and what exactly the Democrat Congress has been doing the past 4 years? For years I kept hearing how dumb Bush was but amazingly he was able to convince a Democrat Congress to destroy the economy and people like you buy it?
 
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Yep, that is me, nailed it, congratulations! You are indeed a legend in your own mind. Where are the jobs? Ask Obama, he lost 4 million of them in two years. You hired him to clean up the "Bush" mess and what did he do? Added 4 million to the unemployment roles! Now Obama wants to raise taxes on the top 2% and you again continue to buy the rhetoric. Please name for me just one economic prediction that Obama has made that has been accurate? Just one. Now of course this one? Extending the tax cuts for the top 2% will COST 700 billion dollars. I am still waiting for an explanation as to how allowing people to keep more of what they earn is an expense to the govt? You bought it, now explain it?
the rich have their tax cut, where are the jobs you promised that would create? where conservative, where? and i know i have you pegged right.
 
Actually, I, myself would prefer that they let all the tax cuts expire, before giving in to Republicans and allowing the wealthy to continue to suck the life out of the country. Republicans claim to be such great "patriots" but they sure hem and haw when it comes to paying taxes. They want the benefits the taxes provide, protection from terrorists, safe food and water to drink, lower crime rates, etc., but they don't want to pay for them. That isn't patriotism if you ask me, that is selfishness and greed.

throw the baby out too, huh?

your sentiments must be very strong

more power to you
 
the rich have their tax cut, where are the jobs you promised that would create? where conservative, where? and i know i have you pegged right.

The rich got to keep more of what they earn, where is that tax cut that the Democrats are offering the middle class?
 
The rich got to keep more of what they earn, where is that tax cut that the Democrats are offering the middle class?
the jobs conservative the jobs....where are the jobs you promised....where??
 
Reaganomics is what delivered us into the economic depression we are in right now, and is the reason why the USA is in decline as a world power.

wow, so many apologists just losing it

you're entitled to your view, of course

but it's not even fringe, it's a splinter
 
the jobs conservative the jobs....where are the jobs you promised....where??

You want to continue to talk about jobs start another thread, this one is about that Middle class tax cut that the Democrats are promising.
 
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