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House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

last time i checked brainiac, 'initiative' aint paying the bills...jobs do that...so again, where are the jobs conservative? the rich got a tax cut, where are the jobs?

Ask your state govt. it is their responsibility to take what the citizens provide instead of taxing it away. TX is working out fine, no problem here. Last time I checked it wasn't my responsibility to find you a job. Personal responsibility doesn't appear to be your strong suit nor is staying on topic. How is taxing the rich going to benefit the economy?
 
All 'right to work' state means is that you have a right to work for a bad wage and in bad conditions. Its a euphemism really

Right, everyone that lives in TX is poor and works for minimum wage. That is why people keep moving here. Apparently the people of TX need your help to straighten us all out.
 
Pay for the extension of unemployment by cutting the military budget so the lazy and indolent people can have one last sweet Xmas. It will be their last.
 
Ask your state govt. it is their responsibility to take what the citizens provide instead of taxing it away. TX is working out fine, no problem here. Last time I checked it wasn't my responsibility to find you a job. Personal responsibility doesn't appear to be your strong suit nor is staying on topic. How is taxing the rich going to benefit the economy?
the rich got their tax cuts, where are the jobs?? notice you keep running away from that one...can't imagine why
 
the rich got their tax cuts, where are the jobs?? notice you keep running away from that one...can't imagine why

Not running at all, you just don't like the answer. Raising taxes seems to be your answer.
 
the rich got their tax cuts, where are the jobs?? notice you keep running away from that one...can't imagine why

This is getting old, you got a tax cut too if you work.
 
Not running at all, you just don't like the answer. Raising taxes seems to be your answer.
where are the jobs conservative? seems that a tax cut for the rich wasnt the answer either...where are the jobs?
 
There is something not being said here. The conservatives seem to be trumpeting tax cuts as something that will help get the economy going strong. Progressives seem to want a far narrower defintion of improvement - creation of jobs .

question: in an economy where we have almost 10% unemployment and an additional 10% working either part-time or who are underemployed, if we cut taxes and the rich and businesses do indeed get richer BUT the jobs are not created for that bottom 20%, is that successful for our American society?
 
where are the jobs conservative? seems that a tax cut for the rich wasnt the answer either...where are the jobs?

The jobs are in a pro growth, pro business state, works here, sorry you need the bigger govt. to take care of you.
 
The jobs are in a pro growth, pro business state, works here, sorry you need the bigger govt. to take care of you.
the tax cuts you advocate are on a national level...i don't give a crap about texas...where are the jobs conservative?
 
There is something not being said here. The conservatives seem to be trumpeting tax cuts as something that will help get the economy going strong. Progressives seem to want a far narrower defintion of improvement - creation of jobs .

question: in an economy where we have almost 10% unemployment and an additional 10% working either part-time or who are underemployed, if we cut taxes and the rich and businesses do indeed get richer BUT the jobs are not created for that bottom 20%, is that successful for our American society?

The class envy and demonization of profit and wealth has to stop as all that does is promote bigger govt. and thus the loss of freedom.
 
LOL, now that is funny, you calling me a plutocratic nutjob. Thanks for the Saturday entertainment, bet you are a real "hoot" at parties. Looks to me like someone needs a nap or a pacifier but more importantly you need a history and civics lesson. Educate yourself and read about the Founders, then read the Constitution. What you are promoting never sold with the founders but like the good little liberal socialist that you are, incrementalism was working for you until this last election. Seems that the majority in this country no longer buy into your big govt., higher spending mantra. Our govt. doesn't spend their money they spend ours. Do your part and send your entire paycheck to the govt. and let them send you back what they think you deserve or need. you want bigger govt. nothing is stopping you. Put your money where your mouth is.

If you would stop calling people names and misrepresenting thier comments, you could save at least half of your typing...
 
As someone who served for seven years, how about you back that up with something credible. Thanks.

I served more than you, plus I served at a time when the draft was in place.
The poor have fewer options in life, but the military is a good one unless it gets you killed. Since the draft went away, the rich are barely represented in enlisted ranks...
 
Yes, the top 1% includes billionaires. The top 1% pays more than the bottom 95% combined
Does that sound fair to you?

and that affects you how? You are not a billionaire, probably not even a millionaire, yet you middle worry about them so much. Is that attitude in the bible or something?
 
Who are you to determine what is fair? You might even become more successful if you weren't so worried about what someone else makes or owns.

Whatever your definition of fair is, tell it to your congressman, see if he gives a ratsass about your opinons. He is too busy sucking up to those top earners to even know you exist.
 
There is something not being said here. The conservatives seem to be trumpeting tax cuts as something that will help get the economy going strong. Progressives seem to want a far narrower defintion of improvement - creation of jobs .

question: in an economy where we have almost 10% unemployment and an additional 10% working either part-time or who are underemployed, if we cut taxes and the rich and businesses do indeed get richer BUT the jobs are not created for that bottom 20%, is that successful for our American society?

the 'conservative' viewpoint seems to be as long as the taxes go down, the dow goes up, and they are getting a great return on investment, employment numbers really don't matter....i'm more of the opinion that what would be a success for us as a country, would be the creation of good paying, full time jobs, where people can afford to do more than just buy grocerys and try and stay afloat week to week. i'm all for businesses doing well, making a solid profit, providing a return on investment... i'm not in favor of rigging the game so that all the benefits go to those who are rich, have all the capital...there has to be a balance, and that seems to be something that conservatives nowadays do not want....
 
Leftists never act in good faith. Allow them to raise taxes, and they will figure out a new way to spend it. Compromise isn't possible with leftists.
 
typical rant? uh, no....take a look at your posts on the subject of taxes and the rich...your own posts prove my point. so conservative, say i want to discuss tax rates, and i believe that those who make more should pay more, in your world, i am suddenly a supporter of class warfare, since i want to discuss tax policy, you will start screaming how '47%' don't pay taxes, add to that 'why do you care how much someone makes?' and even on top of that 'your jealous'....then you start into your whole liberal bashing act. wash, rinse, repeat

They wash, rinse, repeat, but their brains are still washed clean....maybe it is time to use less koolaid in the rinse?
 
If you would stop calling people names and misrepresenting thier comments, you could save at least half of your typing...

LOL, so someone calling me a plutocratic nutjob is me name calling? interesting.
 
Leftists never act in good faith. Allow them to raise taxes, and they will figure out a new way to spend it. Compromise isn't possible with leftists.
you have proof of this?
 
They wash, rinse, repeat, but their brains are still washed clean....maybe it is time to use less koolaid in the rinse?

Name for me a successful liberal program that cost what it was supposed to cost, do what it was supposed to do, solved a problem and then went away? Interesting that you still don't get it, there is only one ideology that doesn't care how much money you make and one ideology where it is all about what someone else makes. I don't know why I waste my time defending you and your right to keep more of what you earn. You want to give it away, do it, but stop promoting the govt. taking it and doing what they want with it.
 
hmmm...what is that favorite line of yours...oh! i remember!!! 'results matter'....the rich got their tax break, where are the jobs(remember, results matter!!) as for your goal....you believe what you want to believe, posters better than i have shown you, time and time again, how little you know .

so you think the rich have a duty to fund your existence

why do people who are dependent on the government get off claiming they are so knowledgeable? those who can take care of themselves have obviously learned a bit better than those who need a nanny state
 
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