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House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

exactly, what did it have to do with the thread other than serve as a diversion....again, the tax cuts are ongoing, so, where are the jobs? remember, results matter!! if the tax cuts are still going on, there should be tons of jobs out there for all those, as you have put, are lazy and living off the government teat...results matter!!

I told you where to get the jobs numbers. There you will find 6.5 million net job increased during Bush and 4 million jobs lost under Obama. The tax cuts did not offset the financial crisis but those tax cuts are still benefiting you. You don't want the benefit send the money back. What benefit will raising the taxes on the rich have on the economy?
 
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Now, how many school Districts in Ohio? It does seem that you have a choice of where to live within the state thus a choice whether or not to pay withholding taxes for schools. Every school district has a different rate and thus it is your choice. Where is that choice when it comes to Federal Income taxes which this thread is all about?
where are the jobs?? results matter!!
 
They defend them because they don't know better, they don't read in between the lines, and Republicans are very good at making their message clear and God-fearing.

You continue to miss the point, Republicans don't care how much you make and hope you become one of those rich people that you seem to hate. You don't want the Bush tax cut, send the money back from each paycheck as the IRS takes contributions. Only one ideology cares how much you make and wants to determine a fair wage and that is the Democrat/Liberal/Progressive or whatever else they are calling themselves these days.

Why the passion on raising someone else's taxes? Why aren't you asking yourself that question?
 
jobs are in the crapper

there's just way too much uncertainty out there for small biz, and for megacorps too (who are famously sitting on 1.8T of capital), to act, to take positive steps

uncertainty in the 2010 income tax

uncertainty in the massive obamacare which no normal american completely understands how it will exactly effect him or her

uncertainty in energy, leadership all over the place on green-ness, cap and trade, gas taxes, drilling...

uncertainty in the leviathan reg reform bill, obama's second largest legislative accomplishment, even less understood than ahab obama's greatest whale

there's also RESENTMENT, active aversion, people are not WILLING to help this guy out

he's turned too many off

the stimulus failed, which is why he can no longer pronounce the suddenly obscene s-word

Just don't call it a 'stimulus' - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com

he doesn't know what he's doing

Obama Told David Brooks There Was No Such Thing as ‘Shovel Ready’ - By Daniel Foster - The Corner - National Review Online

sorry
 
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I don't care what you make or pay in taxes thus don't determine what is fair income for someone else to make. Why do you care?

I don't care what you make either. But I do care that the people who benefit from the tax cuts are the same ones who rigged the system for their own benefit in the first place. The system is criminal, and taxes are justice.
 
You are a broken record, send your tax cut back when you get a paycheck.
the rich got their tax cut, i thought you said this would create jobs...where are these jobs? the rich still have the tax cut in place, yet, i'm not seeing the millions of job openings for all those whom you wish to cut off unemployment benefits for...where are the jobs conservative?? results matter!! you said we would see job creation with tax cuts for the rich...where are the jobs? results matter!!
 
I don't care what you make either. But I do care that the people who benefit from the tax cuts are the same ones who rigged the system for their own benefit in the first place. The system is criminal, and taxes are justice.

Sounds like speculation to me which bodes to ask, if you don't care how much I make why do you care what someone else makes? How are the rich keeping more of their money affecting you?
 
the rich got their tax cut, i thought you said this would create jobs...where are these jobs? the rich still have the tax cut in place, yet, i'm not seeing the millions of job openings for all those whom you wish to cut off unemployment benefits for...where are the jobs conservative?? results matter!! you said we would see job creation with tax cuts for the rich...where are the jobs? results matter!!

The rich and all other income earners got a tax cut and it did create jobs, now Progressives want to raise those taxes but only on a certain group, why not all?
 
The rich and all other income earners got a tax cut and it did create jobs, now Progressives want to raise those taxes but only on a certain group, why not all?
where are the jobs???? results matter!!
 
where are the jobs???? results matter!!

Most apparently are in TX, you probably ask Strickland, oh, wait, he lost on Nov. 2. People are flocking to TX for jobs, wonder why?
 
Sounds like speculation to me which bodes to ask, if you don't care how much I make why do you care what someone else makes? How are the rich keeping more of their money affecting you?

This isn't about me or you. I don't care how much anybody makes if they do it honestly.

But your entire argument is based on the fault premise that everybody who has money earned it, or at least came by it honestly. They didn't. They got that money by reliance on a system that supports murder, deception, apartheid and every manner of crime you can think of.

The rich benefit more from government coercion than the poor do. It is demonstrable by the fact they there is such a tremendous disparity between the top 1% and the bottom 95%, as has been observed by my esteemed colleague Barb. Certainly these benefits are passive (police protection, tort shields, caste systems, what have you) but they are there, while the poor benefit actively from government. But this is a difference in means of benefit, not degree.

The rich clearly benefit from government coercion to a far greater degree than the poor. The poor may "benefit" by coercive regimes like welfare, but the immorality of this sort of coercion (which you term "wealth redistribution") pales in comparison with the government enforced "wealth redistribution" that flows from the poor to the rich. That is why it is fair to extract high taxes from the rich, to compensate the poor for the injustice done them by an inherently unjust government.
 
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Most apparently are in TX, you probably ask Strickland, oh, wait, he lost on Nov. 2. People are flocking to TX for jobs, wonder why?
last i checked, texas had unemployment as well, so again, the rich got a tax break, where are these jobs you have been promising ? results matter!!
 
Nonsense. Taxes = system.

You aren't following me. Of course taxes are part of the system, but whereas the vast majority of government coercion creates a flow of wealth in one direction, from poor to rich, taxes create a flow of wealth in the other direction, from rich to poor. The reason the system is criminal is because it is so imbalanced and unfair. If taxes were higher it would balance the system out. Alternatively, we could remove the coercive elements that passively benefit the rich, but I'm not holding my breath for that.
 
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the rich got their tax cut, i thought you said this would create jobs...where are these jobs? the rich still have the tax cut in place, yet, i'm not seeing the millions of job openings for all those whom you wish to cut off unemployment benefits for...where are the jobs conservative?? results matter!! you said we would see job creation with tax cuts for the rich...where are the jobs? results matter!!

Are you oblivious to the impact of the burst of the housing bubble ? Are you too lazy to do a little Google searching yourself to look at employment numbers for each year of the Bush Presidency ? Sure looks that way.
 
This isn't about me or you. I don't care how much anybody makes if they do it honestly.

But your entire argument is based on the fault premise that everybody who has money earned it, or at least came by it honestly. They didn't. They got that money by reliance on a system that supports murder, deception, apartheid and every manner of crime you can think of.

The rich benefit more from government coercion than the poor do. It is demonstrable by the fact they there is such a tremendous disparity between the top 1% and the bottom 95%, as has been observed by my esteemed colleague Barb. Certainly these benefits are passive (police protection, tort shields, caste systems, what have you) but they are there, while the poor benefit actively from government. But this is a difference in means of benefit, not degree.

The rich clearly benefit from government coercion to a far greater degree than the poor. The poor may "benefit" by coercive regimes like welfare, but the immorality of this sort of coercion (which you term "wealth redistribution") pales in comparison with the government enforced "wealth redistribution" that flows from the poor to the rich. That is why it is fair to extract high taxes from the rich, to compensate the poor for the injustice done them by an inherently unjust government.

And yours is based on a belief that most don't earn their money fairly. You certainly have a perverted view of how our economy works and thus seem to promote destroying it because of the problems created by a few. By allowing for a bigger Central govt. you do nothing but promote more power to Federal Bureaucrats which Libertarians don't support. Clean up the system, return the power to the states, and take away the incentive to buy power at the federal level.
 
Are you oblivious to the impact of the burst of the housing bubble ? Are you too lazy to do a little Google searching yourself to look at employment numbers for each year of the Bush Presidency ? Sure looks that way.
the rich got a tax cut, where are the jobs that were supposed to be created? the argument against taxing the rich is that they are the 'job creators'...ok, they got the cut, where are the jobs? to quote conservative, results matter. your new here, research conservatives posts, and you will see a pattern from him, don't tax the rich, or give them tax cuts, and they will create jobs...where are the jobs?
 
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