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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    You are talking about conservatives, right? I have paid taxes since 1963, even when I was just barely in to the Navy, and poor. There are more deductions for families now than there were then. The only deduction that is missing now is the one for interest deductions other than on mortgages, and sales tax. We all paid taxes, the rich paid a higher rate, and we all got along. Now the rich have had a taste of govt sponsored greed, and it is apparently more addictive than crack cocaine...
    I started a new thread on the role of the Federal Govt. There seems to be quite a disconnect here as to that role. Feel free to participate but the fact remains there is no evidence that there will be a Middle Class tax cut or that any tax increase on the rich will go towards reducing the deficits or paying down the debt.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    hmmm...texas have enough jobs for everyone who is currently unemployed?? no, no they do not. not by a long shot. so again conservative, where are the jobs you promised that would be created?? where?
    clearly all the nation's unemployed should move to Texas, where there are plenty of jobs.
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    clearly all the nation's unemployed should move to Texas, where there are plenty of jobs.

    Quite a few are but the question is if TX can do it, why can't other states?

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I'm not even in the middle and I don't read the bible.
    I just don't think taking from people just because they have more than I do, is fair.
    Everyone should have skin in the game. I don't think it would be right for me to vote for higher taxes on the rich but not on myself. That's why I am a conservative and vote Republican.
    I think everyone should pay the same %. The more you make, the more you pay and no class envy at least over income taxes. No holding yourself of your business back in fear of higher tax brackets either. Like Obamacare, if you employ over 50 people it'll cost you dearly. Who in their right mind with 45 employees will decide to expand?
    I agree with the bolded part....set a fixed percentage with the only deduction being the child tax credit, and let the fur fly....now, what fixed percentage should it be? Remember to make it large enough that there will be some left over to pay down the national debt...
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    You have Republicans in that bunch, but not conservatives.
    believe it or not, some democrats aren't liberals....
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    believe it or not, some democrats aren't liberals....
    I grew up and voted Democrat when there was room in the Democrat Party for Conservatives. That party left me so today I am a person without a party but am closer to the Republican Party than today's Democrat Party. I am looking for the party that doesn't promote class envy and jealousy of what someone else has. I prefer seeing individuals spend their money vs. the govt. wasting it.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    so now we give the death penalty for non payment of ones income taxes?

    even for you this is really over the top. Perhaps it is caviar overload combined with too much Dom Perignon ?
    more like hominy grits, collard greens, and yoohoo....
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I grew up and voted Democrat when there was room in the Democrat Party for Conservatives. That party left me so today I am a person without a party but am closer to the Republican Party than today's Democrat Party. I am looking for the party that doesn't promote class envy and jealousy of what someone else has. I prefer seeing individuals spend their money vs. the govt. wasting it.
    just like the republican party has been hijacked by extremists....several of my middle class friends are saving a few hundred dollars a year on their taxes, that is their reward for helping the rich save a few hundred THOUSAND on theirs...
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    just like the republican party has been hijacked by extremists....several of my middle class friends are saving a few hundred dollars a year on their taxes, that is their reward for helping the rich save a few hundred THOUSAND on theirs...
    I don't think it is extreme for anyone wanting to save or spend their own money. I don't think it is extreme to defend this country. I do think it is extreme to promote class envy and demonize profits and wealth creation.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't think it is extreme for anyone wanting to save or spend their own money. I don't think it is extreme to defend this country. I do think it is extreme to promote class envy and demonize profits and wealth creation.
    Who has promoted class envy? You are one of a few who harp on it constantly. Who has demonized profits and wealth creation?
    Some have praised it beyond its due...and some think that it is done without the support of our govt, our infrastructure, and those who actually did the work that follows good ideas.
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