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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    all that your post is really worth....
    Over and over you have shown that you don't understand the difference between Federal Income taxes and Use taxes like Excise, Sales, Property, etc. You continue to buy what you are told by this Administration regardless of the accuracy. That doesn't help your credibility. Admitting when wrong would help.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

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    This Administration is never going to get unemployment back to 5% because of their economic policies so we are going to have unemployment "benefits" for a long, long time and the longer they are in place the less incentive to get a job. Any idea how many of those getting unemployment "benefits" are part of a two income family?

    Anyway, the point stands unemployment payments are supposed to be short term and funded by the states not payments forever. Right now that is two years worth of payments for a program designed for 26 months. You don't seem to have a problem with the extension.

    How does increasing the taxes on the top 2% put 16 million people back to work and off unemployment "benefits?"
    your opinions conservative, and you are certainly entitled to them, no matter how misguided or offtrack they are...you have alot of preconceived notions of who the unemploymed are...apparently, in your own little world, they are all lazy and no good....no sense in continuing this conversation with you, and i will wait for captain courtesy to chime in and continue my discussion with him.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Over and over you have shown that you don't understand the difference between Federal Income taxes and Use taxes like Excise, Sales, Property, etc. You continue to buy what you are told by this Administration regardless of the accuracy. That doesn't help your credibility. Admitting when wrong would help.
    please, please, please take a double dose for yourself of the advice that you hand out.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    your opinions conservative, and you are certainly entitled to them, no matter how misguided or offtrack they are...you have alot of preconceived notions of who the unemploymed are...apparently, in your own little world, they are all lazy and no good....no sense in continuing this conversation with you, and i will wait for captain courtesy to chime in and continue my discussion with him.
    If they are misguided or offtrack then you shouldn't have any problem proving them wrong but you haven't done that. Never did I say that all people were lazy and no good, so great projection on your part. I asked you how long unemployment payments should be available to the terminally unemployed and didn't get an answer. I don't blame you from runnning and I would do the same in the absence of actual facts and data to support my point of view which obviously you don't have.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    please, please, please take a double dose for yourself of the advice that you hand out.
    Prove me wrong and I will admit it. You haven't done that and in fact have been proven wrong when talking about taxes and their use so you are better off running.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i think having some 'safety net' programs such as food stamps and unemployment benefits benefit society on the whole
    i would hope that none of my colleagues would advocate any kind of elimination of social safety nets, we're americans, americans take care of their neighbors in times of need

    meanwhile, obama's stimulus for teacher hiring, passed in the middle of "recovery summer," came at the expense of cuts to food stamps

    the nyt later reported that school districts coast to coast were taking the aid money and using it NOT to hire teachers as intended but rather to shore up their strained pension funds

    public pensions are very close to the heart of the problem, they're obscene, and they're bankrupt, as overinflated and stretched-to-popping as the subprimed housing market

    Food Stamps Slashed to Pay for Teacher Jobs Bill - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/18/bu...8teachers.html

    Public pensions put state, cities in crisis - SFGate

    Steep Losses Pose Crisis for Pensions - washingtonpost.com

    the word in germany, where unemployment has reached an 18 year low, is austerity

    it's coming here too, it appears, no other way out

    i'm a california public school teacher, by the way, i expect only about half of the pension that's been promised me

    i approve reforming strs (state teacher retirement system) because in my opinion it is outrageously way too fat, teachers in my position retire in their early 60's with close to $4000 a month

    stay up

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So Warren Buffet is smarter at spending your money than you are? Interesting, why don't you then send your money to him and allow him to tell you how much you need on a daily purpose and have him send you what he feels is necessary?
    show me where I said that.....then post again with something relevant...
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't see an answer to the question, you have such outrage over the 100 billion a year spent on the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars but not much on the other 3+ trillion spent on the budget. Take out the 100 billion a year spent on the war and you would be happy?
    which part of the budget is killing the nation's youth for no good reason? IRAQ....
    how much of that budget is going into corrupt afghani pockets? Are you in any way profiting from those wars?

    If we would fight our wars the same way our enemies do, we could save a lot of lives, and money....

    Did you see in the wikileaks that terrorists are getting funded by our "friends" in the middle east, like Saudi Arabia?
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    which part of the budget is killing the nation's youth for no good reason? IRAQ....
    how much of that budget is going into corrupt afghani pockets? Are you in any way profiting from those wars?

    If we would fight our wars the same way our enemies do, we could save a lot of lives, and money....

    Did you see in the wikileaks that terrorists are getting funded by our "friends" in the middle east, like Saudi Arabia?
    Really, so our all volunteer military is killing the nation's youth? For no good reason? Do you always react in real life or are you ever proactive?

    Yes, saw that and it is an outrage. I support cutting off international funding anyway and that starts with those supporting our enemy?

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Do you have any idea how lame it is to see liberals fall back on the "marginal rate" arguments, claiming that we had uber-high marginal rates in teh past, and everyone survived. What we also had were mega deductions and exemptions, such that the net rate paid was below half the usual marginal rate back then. Do you think folks were really paying 80-90% of their income in tax ?

    It is also lame to have folks make all these claims over and over, as you have in many of your posts, and provide zero credible sources for it. When asked, they post more nonsense. Its getting pretty stupid.
    You are talking about conservatives, right? I have paid taxes since 1963, even when I was just barely in to the Navy, and poor. There are more deductions for families now than there were then. The only deduction that is missing now is the one for interest deductions other than on mortgages, and sales tax. We all paid taxes, the rich paid a higher rate, and we all got along. Now the rich have had a taste of govt sponsored greed, and it is apparently more addictive than crack cocaine...
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