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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I think this joke needs a little more time in the oven.
    What is half-baked are the "arguments" of the liberals in this thread. Its almost exclusively whining. You want to take a progressive tax system, heavily weighted against those that earn the most, and make it worse !

    Those that have said allowing the cuts to expire will raise revenue are shallow beyond belief. We will certainly double-dip if that happens, and all revenue will fall. For the Democrats to be so desperate in maintaining their class-envy game right now would be laughably pathetic if not for the harm it will do to all of us, and our kids.

    Democrats are becoming inbred with largesse. Its becoming as a cancer on the Republic.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    So pipe down and stop impeding progress.
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Was I talking about the present?

    The tax cuts are set to expire now for all income groups for the next year correct? That will mean higher government revenues, and should the Republican congress, (who controls the purse strings according to many of your posts) does not go on a drunken sailor spending binge should result in the deficit decreasing. I think that would be a good thing dont you
    So you claim, higher taxes on all mean no changes in personal behavior? So you think a tax increase in all tax brackets means more revenue to the govt? Think that corporate profits and taxes will be the same when the consumer has less money? Think the state revenue will be the same when businesses offset higher taxes by moving to lower tax states? Do economics experts ever taken human behavior courses or simply multiply 2X2 and get 4?

    Right now 16 million Americans aren't working and that number is low. So in your world increasing taxes takes more money out of the consumers hands and that means more revenue to the govt and higher employment? I am so thankful that I didn't go to your school for an education.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    not interested in the answer?

    only in some insignificant little chatroomer?

    LOL!

    someone's losing it

    why did obama promise unemployment would cap at 8% with passage of his stimu... err, recovery act?

    why did the senators slice off?

    why did orszag oust himself?
    losing it? have you ever had it?

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I can tell you didn't actually read the article I linked to. Read the article, which contains the argument I have adopted, and then respond.
    You get an argument. You explain how jobs and the economy is not the priority now, but rather raising taxes on those making $200K is ? Tell us all how that gets people back to work ? Turns things around ? Makes us a better economy ?

    Its an argument you, and Obama for that matter as he is such a jackass, cannot make.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    apparently if i rattle his chain, better put a flea collar on him , as he appears to have picked up one.
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    where are the jobs

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    losing it? have you ever had it?
    Randel, I really do feel sorry for you as you are out of your league here. Still waiting for how many jobs will be created by raising the taxes on the top 2% of income earners? Also waiting for your explanation as to what Obama has done to create jobs when the net job loss in two years is 4 million according to bls.gov.

    Unfortunately you are still in that trance stage over the Obama rhetoric. Too bad you weren't one of those awakened on Nov. 2, 2010.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    true colors, conservative, true colors, your philosophy is 'screw everyone else, i got mine'....again conservative, stay with me this time...where have all these 'jobs' been that these people are supposed to have found....and yes conservative, i know what 'full employment' is considered to be, 95%....your still lacking of hitting that...where are the jobs, where are the jobs.....
    one of the great lies perpetrated by the socialist and democrat party left is that if someone opposes the government forcibly redistributing income that person must be selfish or greedy. Its the way rich dems demonize their opponents and its the way the dependent democrats justify suckling from the public teat and damning those who want to cut back on the milk coming from that teat.

    In reality, most of us who oppose forced income redistribution are not only in favor of private charity, we tend to support it at much higher rates than similarly situated democrats or welfare socialists.

    Nothing is more greedy and self centered than demanding others contribute at the point of a gun while you do not.



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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So you claim, higher taxes on all mean no changes in personal behavior? So you think a tax increase in all tax brackets means more revenue to the govt? Think that corporate profits and taxes will be the same when the consumer has less money? Think the state revenue will be the same when businesses offset higher taxes by moving to lower tax states? Do economics experts ever taken human behavior courses or simply multiply 2X2 and get 4?
    Where did I say that? tax revenues can go up with tax increases, or they can go down, tax revenues can go up with tax cuts, or they can go down with tax cuts. It is entirely dependant on the what is occuring in the wider economy. Small tax increases or cuts will have minor effects either way.


    Right now 16 million Americans aren't working and that number is low. So in your world increasing taxes takes more money out of the consumers hands and that means more revenue to the govt and higher employment? I am so thankful that I didn't go to your school for an education.
    Currently the US government has a trillion dollar deficit, tax cuts are not going to solve that. A combination of tax increases and spending cuts are going to be required to eliminate the deficit. Thankfully I have an education and not some piece of paper from Coconut College. Try to think critically about all factors that effect the economy rather some narrow set of stats and you will be far better served by your "vast" knowledge
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