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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I happen to like going to Cleveland for a couple of days. Michael Symon has some great restaurants, you can catch a pro game, and there is both the church where THE DEERHUNTER was filmed and the house from A CHRISTMAS STORY. And you have the R&Roll Hall.

    Newport KY, right across from Cinci has a great aquarium. Appreciate what it there.

    Okay - now back to the savaging.
    As someone that used to go to Newport on the Levee quite a bit, I will say the Newport Aquraium is stupid overpriced. Who in the hell is going to pay $30+ a piece to see some damn stingrays when they could drive up to the Cincinnati Zoo and see some monkeys and bears for less?
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    for any of the economic conservatives here

    if we cuts taxes for the rich and the economy improves creating more wealth for the rich and more for corporations but there is no job growth for the bottom 20% who are now hurting, is that good for American society?

    or lets try it this way

    If that scenario happens, would you still advocate cutting taxes on the rich knowing that it will not produce the jobs for the lower 20%?
    If the economy improves it takes workers to meet the demand, jobs will be created. The question is how many of the 16 million really want to work? sometimes tough love is required vs. those handouts liberals seem to love.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    so he is a traitor to your class... or at least the class you tell us you are a member of.
    the uber rich are often the biggest supporters of massive taxes and socialism-I find it funny that people like you consider someone making 400K a year to be far removed from someone making 45 to 80K a year but find someone making a billion a year to be exactly the same as someone making 400K a year



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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    To each their own, it was a great place to grow up learning midwestern values and work ethic, something that many here today don't understand.
    As someone that lives in the "gateway to the south" and as someone that grew up in the south (SC to be exact) I think that SC teaches values and work ethic much better than Ohio. All Ohio gave me and my family was reasons to feel bad because we weren't doing better than the asshole up the road that decided that having debt up to their eyeballs was the better path.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    lets see

    he can afford massive tax hikes and demand that everyone in the top 2% face tax hikes

    he whines that his secretary-whose entire income is salary-pays an overall rate than he does because he Structures his compensation so that his salary is extremely LOW compared to similarly situated executives and his income from Dividends and Capital gains makes up most of his compensation so he structured his compensation so most of it is at the lowest taxed form of income.

    he also brays how great the death tax is (mainly because it frees up rare property and other things for people like him to buy) yet he has set up his estate so the government gets nothing when he dies.
    so he uses every legal way that he can to lower his tax burden.....heck, i would have figured that would make him your hero.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the uber rich are often the biggest supporters of massive taxes and socialism-I find it funny that people like you consider someone making 400K a year to be far removed from someone making 45 to 80K a year but find someone making a billion a year to be exactly the same as someone making 400K a year
    Quite to the contrary. One of the big problems in this country is that it is the folks who make $90K or more who suddenly see themselves in the class of the rich. They delude themselves into thinking they are closer to the wealthy because it serves some sick inner need to make them feel better about themselves and they do not mind believing the lie.
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    As someone that used to go to Newport on the Levee quite a bit, I will say the Newport Aquraium is stupid overpriced. Who in the hell is going to pay $30+ a piece to see some damn stingrays when they could drive up to the Cincinnati Zoo and see some monkeys and bears for less?
    My wife and I had a great time there and enjoyed it a whole lot. We had lunch at that Italian restaurant down the street where a scene from RAINMAN was filmed. Enjoy what you have.
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    My wife and I had a great time there and enjoyed it a whole lot. We had lunch at that Italian restaurant down the street where a scene from RAINMAN was filmed. Enjoy what you have.
    Whhhaaaaat what restuarant? I used to live in Covington for a time in the historical district. The best thing I can think of coming out of NKY is Goetta. Goetta kicks ass. Ever had that?
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    so he uses every legal way that he can to lower his tax burden.....heck, i would have figured that would make him your hero.
    and then he whines that what he does is unfair

    I guess you missed that part



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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    As someone that lives in the "gateway to the south" and as someone that grew up in the south (SC to be exact) I think that SC teaches values and work ethic much better than Ohio. All Ohio gave me and my family was reasons to feel bad because we weren't doing better than the asshole up the road that decided that having debt up to their eyeballs was the better path.
    people pick and choose where they live, depends on where you live as you can find that anywhere including S.C. Been there, good state, has advantages just like every other. You really need to take responsibility for your own choices in life including where you live. I moved many times in my career and always made the best of it, including Anderson, Indiana

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