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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Warren Buffet says trickledown doesn't work, and he is smarter about such things than you and me by a long shot...
    Buffett's honesty when it comes to imposing higher taxes on others is quite suspect. Lionizing a guy who ingratiates himself to the dem power brokers is rather silly



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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Warren Buffet says trickledown doesn't work, and he is smarter about such things than you and me by a long shot...
    So Warren Buffet is smarter at spending your money than you are? Interesting, why don't you then send your money to him and allow him to tell you how much you need on a daily purpose and have him send you what he feels is necessary?

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Buffett's honesty when it comes to imposing higher taxes on others is quite suspect. Lionizing a guy who ingratiates himself to the dem power brokers is rather silly
    why do you consider him 'suspect'?

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Declaration of War in the United States Republican vs Democrat


    Vietnam War: Democratic
    Multinational Force in Lebanon: Republican
    Persian Gulf War: Democratic
    2001 war in Afghanistan: Split Republican and Democratic (Democratic turn for majority)
    Iraq War (2002): Split Republican and Democratic (Republican turn for majority)



    Military Engagements Authorized By United Nations
    Korean War-President Harry S Truman: Democratic
    Multinational Force in Lebanon-President Ronald Reagan: Republican
    Gulf War-President George Bush: Republican
    Bosnian War-President Bill Clinton: Democratic
    2001 war in Afghanistan-President George W. Bush: Republican
    Haiti/MINUSTAH-President George W. Bush: Republican


    close to 50/50, but the more recent ones are clearly mostly by the republican side of the padded cell....
    I don't see an answer to the question, you have such outrage over the 100 billion a year spent on the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars but not much on the other 3+ trillion spent on the budget. Take out the 100 billion a year spent on the war and you would be happy?

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Are you going to answer MY question or are you going to give me more of your bumper sticker fertilizer?
    This was your last post addressed to me.

    Baloney pal. half of what you post is taken from a bumper sticker next to a "don't tread on me" stupid snake.
    Where's the question?

    Now perhaps you cans answer why the lower 20% can't find work.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    As someone that lived in Ohio for 13 years all I can say is:



    Seriously, I don't care who you are what you do, what your political affiliation is, Ohio is one of the ****tiest places anyone could go. If anyone on this board is thinking of going to Ohio for any reason let it be for COSI, Cedar Point, or the various museums or zoos. For living purposes stay the hell away from it. Most the people no matter what they believe are a bunch of tards.
    To each their own, it was a great place to grow up learning midwestern values and work ethic, something that many here today don't understand.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    for any of the economic conservatives here

    if we cuts taxes for the rich and the economy improves creating more wealth for the rich and more for corporations but there is no job growth for the bottom 20% who are now hurting, is that good for American society?

    or lets try it this way

    If that scenario happens, would you still advocate cutting taxes on the rich knowing that it will not produce the jobs for the lower 20%?
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    why do you consider him 'suspect'?
    lets see

    he can afford massive tax hikes and demand that everyone in the top 2% face tax hikes

    he whines that his secretary-whose entire income is salary-pays an overall rate than he does because he Structures his compensation so that his salary is extremely LOW compared to similarly situated executives and his income from Dividends and Capital gains makes up most of his compensation so he structured his compensation so most of it is at the lowest taxed form of income.

    he also brays how great the death tax is (mainly because it frees up rare property and other things for people like him to buy) yet he has set up his estate so the government gets nothing when he dies.



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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    lets see

    he can afford massive tax hikes and demand that everyone in the top 2% face tax hikes

    he whines that his secretary-whose entire income is salary-pays an overall rate than he does because he Structures his compensation so that his salary is extremely LOW compared to similarly situated executives and his income from Dividends and Capital gains makes up most of his compensation so he structured his compensation so most of it is at the lowest taxed form of income.

    he also brays how great the death tax is (mainly because it frees up rare property and other things for people like him to buy) yet he has set up his estate so the government gets nothing when he dies.
    so he is a traitor to your class... or at least the class you tell us you are a member of.
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    for any of the economic conservatives here

    if we cuts taxes for the rich and the economy improves creating more wealth for the rich and more for corporations but there is no job growth for the bottom 20% who are now hurting, is that good for American society?

    or lets try it this way

    If that scenario happens, would you still advocate cutting taxes on the rich knowing that it will not produce the jobs for the lower 20%?
    well we know that tax hikes aren't going to improve the job situation of that group and its not going to decrease the deficit given that the dems want to increase social spending so what good does a tax hike do other than make the envious feel good that the evil rich are getting soaked some more

    however tax hikes do hurt things if applied only to the rich because the average voter will again feel that curing the economic woes is the duty of the rich and the average voter will feel no need to punish politicians who continue to spend and spend and spend



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