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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The jobs are in a pro growth, pro business state, works here, sorry you need the bigger govt. to take care of you.
    the tax cuts you advocate are on a national level...i don't give a crap about texas...where are the jobs conservative?

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There is something not being said here. The conservatives seem to be trumpeting tax cuts as something that will help get the economy going strong. Progressives seem to want a far narrower defintion of improvement - creation of jobs .

    question: in an economy where we have almost 10% unemployment and an additional 10% working either part-time or who are underemployed, if we cut taxes and the rich and businesses do indeed get richer BUT the jobs are not created for that bottom 20%, is that successful for our American society?
    The class envy and demonization of profit and wealth has to stop as all that does is promote bigger govt. and thus the loss of freedom.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    ...where are the jobs conservative?
    China and India. And that's where they are going to stay. It doesn't make sense to create jobs in America.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, now that is funny, you calling me a plutocratic nutjob. Thanks for the Saturday entertainment, bet you are a real "hoot" at parties. Looks to me like someone needs a nap or a pacifier but more importantly you need a history and civics lesson. Educate yourself and read about the Founders, then read the Constitution. What you are promoting never sold with the founders but like the good little liberal socialist that you are, incrementalism was working for you until this last election. Seems that the majority in this country no longer buy into your big govt., higher spending mantra. Our govt. doesn't spend their money they spend ours. Do your part and send your entire paycheck to the govt. and let them send you back what they think you deserve or need. you want bigger govt. nothing is stopping you. Put your money where your mouth is.
    If you would stop calling people names and misrepresenting thier comments, you could save at least half of your typing...
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    As someone who served for seven years, how about you back that up with something credible. Thanks.
    I served more than you, plus I served at a time when the draft was in place.
    The poor have fewer options in life, but the military is a good one unless it gets you killed. Since the draft went away, the rich are barely represented in enlisted ranks...
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Yes, the top 1% includes billionaires. The top 1% pays more than the bottom 95% combined
    Does that sound fair to you?
    and that affects you how? You are not a billionaire, probably not even a millionaire, yet you middle worry about them so much. Is that attitude in the bible or something?
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Who are you to determine what is fair? You might even become more successful if you weren't so worried about what someone else makes or owns.
    Whatever your definition of fair is, tell it to your congressman, see if he gives a ratsass about your opinons. He is too busy sucking up to those top earners to even know you exist.
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There is something not being said here. The conservatives seem to be trumpeting tax cuts as something that will help get the economy going strong. Progressives seem to want a far narrower defintion of improvement - creation of jobs .

    question: in an economy where we have almost 10% unemployment and an additional 10% working either part-time or who are underemployed, if we cut taxes and the rich and businesses do indeed get richer BUT the jobs are not created for that bottom 20%, is that successful for our American society?
    the 'conservative' viewpoint seems to be as long as the taxes go down, the dow goes up, and they are getting a great return on investment, employment numbers really don't matter....i'm more of the opinion that what would be a success for us as a country, would be the creation of good paying, full time jobs, where people can afford to do more than just buy grocerys and try and stay afloat week to week. i'm all for businesses doing well, making a solid profit, providing a return on investment... i'm not in favor of rigging the game so that all the benefits go to those who are rich, have all the capital...there has to be a balance, and that seems to be something that conservatives nowadays do not want....

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Leftists never act in good faith. Allow them to raise taxes, and they will figure out a new way to spend it. Compromise isn't possible with leftists.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    typical rant? uh, no....take a look at your posts on the subject of taxes and the rich...your own posts prove my point. so conservative, say i want to discuss tax rates, and i believe that those who make more should pay more, in your world, i am suddenly a supporter of class warfare, since i want to discuss tax policy, you will start screaming how '47%' don't pay taxes, add to that 'why do you care how much someone makes?' and even on top of that 'your jealous'....then you start into your whole liberal bashing act. wash, rinse, repeat
    They wash, rinse, repeat, but their brains are still washed clean....maybe it is time to use less koolaid in the rinse?
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