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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Most apparently are in TX, people are flocking to TX for jobs, wonder why?
    The Top 10 Places in America Poised for Recovery - Newsweek

    thanks, friend

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    the rich got their tax cut, i thought you said this would create jobs...where are these jobs? the rich still have the tax cut in place, yet, i'm not seeing the millions of job openings for all those whom you wish to cut off unemployment benefits for...where are the jobs conservative?? results matter!! you said we would see job creation with tax cuts for the rich...where are the jobs? results matter!!
    Are you oblivious to the impact of the burst of the housing bubble ? Are you too lazy to do a little Google searching yourself to look at employment numbers for each year of the Bush Presidency ? Sure looks that way.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    wo die jobs sind?

    (where are the jobs?)

    german unemployment 18 year low
    Last edited by The Prof; 12-05-10 at 02:44 PM.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    This isn't about me or you. I don't care how much anybody makes if they do it honestly.

    But your entire argument is based on the fault premise that everybody who has money earned it, or at least came by it honestly. They didn't. They got that money by reliance on a system that supports murder, deception, apartheid and every manner of crime you can think of.

    The rich benefit more from government coercion than the poor do. It is demonstrable by the fact they there is such a tremendous disparity between the top 1% and the bottom 95%, as has been observed by my esteemed colleague Barb. Certainly these benefits are passive (police protection, tort shields, caste systems, what have you) but they are there, while the poor benefit actively from government. But this is a difference in means of benefit, not degree.

    The rich clearly benefit from government coercion to a far greater degree than the poor. The poor may "benefit" by coercive regimes like welfare, but the immorality of this sort of coercion (which you term "wealth redistribution") pales in comparison with the government enforced "wealth redistribution" that flows from the poor to the rich. That is why it is fair to extract high taxes from the rich, to compensate the poor for the injustice done them by an inherently unjust government.
    And yours is based on a belief that most don't earn their money fairly. You certainly have a perverted view of how our economy works and thus seem to promote destroying it because of the problems created by a few. By allowing for a bigger Central govt. you do nothing but promote more power to Federal Bureaucrats which Libertarians don't support. Clean up the system, return the power to the states, and take away the incentive to buy power at the federal level.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Are you oblivious to the impact of the burst of the housing bubble ? Are you too lazy to do a little Google searching yourself to look at employment numbers for each year of the Bush Presidency ? Sure looks that way.
    the rich got a tax cut, where are the jobs that were supposed to be created? the argument against taxing the rich is that they are the 'job creators'...ok, they got the cut, where are the jobs? to quote conservative, results matter. your new here, research conservatives posts, and you will see a pattern from him, don't tax the rich, or give them tax cuts, and they will create jobs...where are the jobs?

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

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    And yours is based on a belief that most don't earn their money fairly. You certainly have a perverted view of how our economy works and thus seem to promote destroying it because of the problems created by a few
    In the past fifty years alone, the government has supported systematized discrimination, propped up dictatorial regimes world-wide, committed assassinations, torture, and wars of aggression, all for the personal financial benefit of the upper 1%. And yet you think this is earning money fairly? Who's got the perverse worldview?

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Don't you find it interesting that those that have made it now want to destroy the very system that helped them create their own wealth? All that is posted is theory that ignores human behavior and incentive. What those posts show are naive comments based upon the distorted opinion that the Federal Govt. needs the money more than the individual taxpayer and that they will apply any additional income to the debt. Please give me an example of when that has ever happened in modern history? And Please don't use Clinton as an example as we have threads that have disproved that, the debt went up every year during the Clinton years.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    where are the jobs?
    well, apparently there are quite a few in texas, torpedo alley und deutschland

    read the links

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    In the past fifty years alone, the government has supported systematized discrimination, propped up dictatorial regimes world-wide, committed assassinations, torture, and wars of aggression, all for the personal financial benefit of the upper 1%. And yet you think this is earning money fairly? Who's got the perverse worldview?
    That cetainly is your opinion so again tell me how the rich keeping more of what they earn hurts you or your family?

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    well, apparently there are quite a few in texas, torpedo alley und deutschland

    read the links
    texas still has unemployment...where are the jobs?

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