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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Oh, this is good.

    Here, let me make your arguments for you:

    "SOCIALISM!!!"
    "JEALOUSY!!!"
    "CLASS WARFARE!!!"
    "THE FOUNDERS!!!"

    I don't give a damn what the Founders intended, you half-wit monkey. The Founders no longer hold elected offices. It isn't their country, it's ours. As long as we don't live in a necrocratic cult society, I'll continue to advocate my views as permitted under our precious Constitution. If you want your political ideals to be the result of over two centuries of intellectual stagnation, then that's your prerogative. Just cut the crap and admit that you're a backward lumpenprole.
    The election of Nov. 2 did just that, kicked you socialists out of power. Back to the drawing board for you. Sorry, but the reality is you are going to have to make it on your own and be held accountable for your own screwups. Thanks for the name calling as it definitely strengthens your argument,

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    534 members of congress are capitalists. There is but one prince of darkness!




    edit sorry minor dyslexia lol
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The election of Nov. 2 did just that, kicked you socialists out of power. Back to the drawing board for you. Sorry, but the reality is you are going to have to make it on your own and be held accountable for your own screwups. Thanks for the name calling as it definitely strengthens your argument,
    Where are all of these socialists? If the Democrats were socialists, I'm sure it would've been mentioned in our newsletter.

    To paraphrase Christopher Hitchens:

    If Bill Clinton was a socialist, I think I would know by now. There aren't very many of us and we're generally sort of "in touch."

    It's nice to see that you have no argument to offer at all, which is why you had to reference an election that has nothing to do with this discussion.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Where are all of these socialists? If the Democrats were socialists, I'm sure it would've been mentioned in our newsletter.

    To paraphrase Christopher Hitchens:

    If Bill Clinton was a socialist, I think I would know by now. There aren't very many of us and we're generally sort of "in touch."

    It's nice to see that you have no argument to offer at all, which is why you had to reference an election that has nothing to do with this discussion.
    Bill Clinton isn't in office but keep trying to divert from the mess Obama has created. So since Clinton is off topic let's get back on topic. Houses Passes Middle Class tax cut......... which of course is a lie. There is no Tax cut for the Middle Class only extension of the Bush tax cuts and those should be extended for ALL taxpayers. I have seen no valid argument supporting the extension of tax cuts for one group and expiration on another. Belief in

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    But the 47% not paying taxes are probably supplying 98% of the enlisted troops...
    As someone who served for seven years, how about you back that up with something credible. Thanks.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Bill Clinton isn't in office but keep trying to divert from the mess Obama has created. So since Clinton is off topic let's get back on topic. Houses Passes Middle Class tax cut......... which of course is a lie. There is no Tax cut for the Middle Class only extension of the Bush tax cuts and those should be extended for ALL taxpayers. I have seen no valid argument supporting the extension of tax cuts for one group and expiration on another. Belief in
    So, in addition to missing the point, you failed to uncover all of these closet socialists.

    Thanks for trying.

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Did they earn it on their own, or is their success due, in part, to a societal framework which is conducive to such prosperity? If the latter is true, then those whose profit from society owe that society the same opportunities that they capitalized on to enrich themselves.

    When it comes to the wealthy, this means picking up the slack in tax revenues.
    How about you tell us how many families with income between $250-500K per year did or did not "earn it on their own". Maybe 'splain "societal framework conducive to prosperity" vs. my preferred version "economic framework conducive to earning it"

    Please, no platitudes as responses. Thanks in advance !

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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    534 members of congress are capitalists. There is but one prince of darkness!




    edit sorry minor dyslexia lol
    Bernie is the only admitted
    socialist in Congress.
    Seems he is very interested in the top 1% of tax payers, yet neglects this


    To put this in perspective, the top 1 percent is comprised of just 1.4 million taxpayers and they pay a larger share of the income tax burden now than the bottom 134 million taxpayers combined.
    The Tax Foundation - Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95%
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Bernie is the only admitted
    socialist in Congress.
    Seems he is very interested in the top 1% of tax payers, yet neglects this


    To put this in perspective, the top 1 percent is comprised of just 1.4 million taxpayers and they pay a larger share of the income tax burden now than the bottom 134 million taxpayers combined.
    The Tax Foundation - Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95%
    I would hope that they pay more than the bottom 95%? The top 1 percent includes multi-billionaires? lol try again?
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    Re: House Passes Middle-Class Tax Cut as Dems, GOP Try to Reach Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    How about you tell us how many families with income between $250-500K per year did or did not "earn it on their own".
    I already stated explicitly that no one achieves wealth entirely on their own initiative.
    Maybe 'splain "societal framework conducive to prosperity" vs. my preferred version "economic framework conducive to earning it"
    First of all, I don't give a damn what your "preferred version" is.

    Secondly, you don't live in a third world country. You live in a country where everyone is, to some extent, dependent on the labor of others. It's a simple division of labor. Nobody would be where they are today if society didn't have every kind of labor -- from burger flippers to loggers. You are, to one degree on another, dependent on others to uphold a society that permits you to secure wealth and then secures that wealth for you from theft.

    You can't be a lawyer without people to pass laws and then people to judge cases, or without people to teach your law classes, or without people who make all of the paper you use. If you worked hard in law school, good for you, but other people's labor made it possible, not just your own. In exchange for all of that, it's incumbent on you to do your part to ensure a society where everyone has the same opportunities as you.

    Now, respond without blabbering about the Founders or a rant about personal responsibility. Thanks in advance.

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