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    Re: South Korean spy chief warns of more attacks by North

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    China will leave America alone within it's borders because the Chinese avoid chaos. Nothing is worse than chaos. America can't be conquered and it can't be governed.
    I think we have heard something like this before.... 1937???
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    Re: South Korean spy chief warns of more attacks by North

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I think we have heard something like this before.... 1937???
    The correct historical analogy is not to Munich in 1937 CE, but to Rome in 410 CE.

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    Re: South Korean spy chief warns of more attacks by North

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I think America couldn't fight it's way out of a paper bag considering the mental state of the American people. You can't send Americans to fight when the American people are so bitterlly divided. It doesn't work.
    America is much more stable now than it was in the past. The "divide" is merely a propoganda concocted by the GOP as a last resort to keep their dying party from being completely extinguished. There's always been public unrest in America. Read history.

    Why do you have this false notion that America was somehow a big happy family up until this point? Forgot the Civil War? Forgot segregation and slavery? Forgot the depression? Stop looking out of rose colored glasses and get with reality.

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    Re: South Korean spy chief warns of more attacks by North

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    The correct historical analogy is not to Munich in 1937 CE, but to Rome in 410 CE.
    Not quite... Rome was an empire in which it conquered peoples and ruled directly over them. Amazing how often I have seen the U.S. compared to Imperial Rome when there are simply too many DIFFERENCES between them for them to be comparable. America is not an empire in that way. Its wealth largely comes from its own land and people, not from colonies like Rome did. If a country dared thumb its nose at Rome, Rome would conquer it and incorporate it into its empire. Good thing for France that the U.S. doesn't follow a similar policy.

    No, A.D. 1937 is the more appropriate analogy as China is looking for more living space much in the same way Nazi Germany did. Only that the Chinese are more patient than the Germans are. They are willing to wait until they have a clear advantage if they can get it. Germany didn't wait long enough.
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    Re: South Korean spy chief warns of more attacks by North

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    So, you don't think it is important for the U.S. to live up to its treaty committments?
    Without doubt, even noting the current political divisions, the U.S. would live up to its mutual defense obligations were South Korea invaded. Otherwise, both U.S. credibility (far beyond security matters) and security would both be shattered.

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    Re: South Korean spy chief warns of more attacks by North

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Not quite... Rome was an empire in which it conquered peoples and ruled directly over them. Amazing how often I have seen the U.S. compared to Imperial Rome when there are simply too many DIFFERENCES between them for them to be comparable. America is not an empire in that way. Its wealth largely comes from its own land and people, not from colonies like Rome did. If a country dared thumb its nose at Rome, Rome would conquer it and incorporate it into its empire. Good thing for France that the U.S. doesn't follow a similar policy.

    No, A.D. 1937 is the more appropriate analogy as China is looking for more living space much in the same way Nazi Germany did. Only that the Chinese are more patient than the Germans are. They are willing to wait until they have a clear advantage if they can get it. Germany didn't wait long enough.
    The natures of the two empires are different, but from an American perspective it sure seems like the Vandals sacking Rome. Our borders are violated with impunity. Foreigners kill us on our own soil and nothing happens.

    The PRC may very well see this as their opportunity, but they too will discover that all power is limited. The vaunted Chinese patience has proven elusive in the last few months as the PRC makes diplomatic blunder after blunder.

    Remember one thing that restrains the Chinese. They cannot afford to lose a war or appear to lose a war. If they lose or appear to do so, the power and authority of the Chinese Communitst Party will be endangered.

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    Re: South Korean spy chief warns of more attacks by North

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    The natures of the two empires are different, but from an American perspective it sure seems like the Vandals sacking Rome. Our borders are violated with impunity. Foreigners kill us on our own soil and nothing happens.
    Have you been on this planet for the last 10 years?

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    Re: South Korean spy chief warns of more attacks by North

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Actually, I was thinking of the crime committed by illegal aliens. Please don't try to divert this away from geopolitics.

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    Re: South Korean spy chief warns of more attacks by North

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Actually, I was thinking of the crime committed by illegal aliens.
    Please don't tell me you're one of those people that believes we should turn the Southern American border into a all you can eat bonanza shooting range do you?

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    Re: South Korean spy chief warns of more attacks by North

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Please don't tell me you're one of those people that believes we should turn the Southern American border into a all you can eat bonanza shooting range do you?
    No.

    What do you think about the proposition that America can't fight foreign wars any longer because the wars will be used for domestic political purposes by whomever is out of power?

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