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My question is what poor excuse for a parent can’t rustle up a bowl of cereal and a banana?" O'Beirne asked. "I just don’t get why millions of school children qualify for school breakfasts unless we have a major wide spread problem with child neglect."
She continued, "If that’s how many parents are incapable of pulling together a bowl of cereal and a banana, then we have problems that are way bigger than -- that problem can’t be solved with a school breakfast, because we have parents who are just criminally ... criminally negligent with respect to raising children."
considering that these parents are already receiving food stamps, why indeed?
Living breathing humans, are NOT the same as a fetus.
I think my son and his family qualifes for free school meals. He teaches 8th grade science, got stiffed by the school board on raises the last 2 years, DJ's and coaches sports for extra money, his wife works part time, and one of his 3 kids has an inoperable brain tumor that has a substantial impact on their budget.Not all families who qualify for free lunch or free breakfast receive or even qualify for food stamps. It depends on the area and the rules of school district and those rules of the Dept. of Health and Human Services.
There probably are some parents who are just too lazy to make breakfast for their children, but there are probably also some who are either single parents or have both parents working, and they go to work before their children get up or they have to be at work before their children have to be at school. There could also be some who are getting off work about the time that their children have to be at school.
Not to mention, if a parent has children that do qualify for free lunch and free breakfast at school, why not take advantage of it. It could mean one or two less things that a struggling parent or pair of parents has to do, along with their own work/household duties, and one or two less meals each day that they have to pay for. If they aren't getting food stamps, then they could ensure that they have enough food for all the other meals, and possibly save the extra money to help themselves get better off financially. If they are on foodstamps, then they will also be able to ensure that they have enough food for the entire month with their food stamps and not have to buy things with money that is going to other bills/expenses.
I don't think that everyone abuses either foodstamps or free school meals. Now, it would be good for schools to get healthier food choices for school. And I even agree with limiting food choices available to be bought with foodstamps. I just don't think that elliminating free lunches/breakfasts at school is a good thing just because some parents may be either abusing the system or lazy or both.
I think my son and his family qualifes for free school meals. He teaches 8th grade science, got stiffed by the school board on raises the last 2 years, DJ's and coaches sports for extra money, his wife works part time, and one of his 3 kids has an inoperable brain tumor that has a substantial impact on their budget.
They don't use the program, but I am pretty sure they qualify...
so will my son and his family probably. they both work full time, too, and don't get food stamps. but some people insist on labeling as a matter of course.
and i'm so sorry about your grandson.
thanks, actually a granddaughter, been on and off chemo, mostly on for almost 4 years, since just before she turned 7, and running out of chemo options. Radiation will probably be next if the next MRI shows new growth...
I think my son and his family qualifes for free school meals. He teaches 8th grade science, got stiffed by the school board on raises the last 2 years, DJ's and coaches sports for extra money, his wife works part time, and one of his 3 kids has an inoperable brain tumor that has a substantial impact on their budget.
They don't use the program, but I am pretty sure they qualify...
that must be very difficult. my grandson is 3 and i can't imagine. blessings.
Well, could it be that the reason you are able to make this observation is because you are only slightly conservative...:2razz:My family always qualified for free or reduced lunch while I was in school, but we never got food stamps (I know that there was at least one time that my parents applied and were turned down). Both of my parents have either worked or been going to school or both most of my childhood (each had periods of <6 months when they had been laid off).
I know that there are people out there who are stuggling, who just can't find the time or money or either to provide breakfast and/or lunch during the week for their children. And it is obvious that schools have figured out that not all parents can provide homemade lunches for their kids, since schools offer school lunch in the first place. The same thing is true for breakfast.
Actually, it is kind of interesting that some people would consider receiving the free breakfast or even lunch a problem with the parent being "lazy", yet the kid's parents who buy the same breakfast or lunch from the school is never mentioned as neglectful. I bet there are far more students who are either buying their breakfast/lunch from the school or who are not eating at all, than there are students who are being provided breakfast and lunch at/from home.
Well, could it be that you are able to make this observation is because you are only slightly conservative...:2razz:
I think regular conservatives are more like you.Possibly. I believe that some conservatives do not consider the reality of those who need help, and only look at either worst cases or the pure economics. Numbers can only show so much. And those numbers cannot take into account greed or misfortune or even poor decisions. I want to hold people accountable for their actions, but not to the point where they or their children will starve. Especially if they are actually trying to get back on their feet. And I certainly understand that not everyone can be in the middle or upper income classes. There has to be a bottom.
I guess I'm in the middle economically speaking. I don't think it is practical to do away with all government assistance, not in the world we live in today. But I also don't want to have people receiving assistance who are not willing to try to better themselves. The programs definitely need to be reformed, just not so drastically that they would cause people who are trying to get screwed when they need the help.
I want to hold people accountable for their actions, but not to the point where they or their children will starve. Especially if they are actually trying to get back on their feet.
I guess I'm in the middle economically speaking. I don't think it is practical to do away with all government assistance, not in the world we live in today. But I also don't want to have people receiving assistance who are not willing to try to better themselves. The programs definitely need to be reformed, just not so drastically that they would cause people who are trying to get screwed when they need the help.
I'll let my signature speak for me on this thread.
Where/when exactly did Thomas Jefferson make these statements?
yes, this is the cycle which must be brokensame here. only, I am not too concerned if someone starves due to poor choices he/she made. I guess I am jaded from my experiences of being a foster parent. In almost every single case, the kids were in state custody because the parents were either lazy or criminal. In the 7 years we did fostercare I saw exactly ONE case in which a child was taken from a home because the parent was truely UNABLE to care for him. (dad was in prison and mom had an IQ of 63, couldn't even take care of herself)
same here. I have absolutely no problem with helping someone who is down on their luck, through no fault of their own, get back on their feet. But I have seen too many families where living off the govt is a way of life passed down from generation to generation.
Well, I never saw that, but no, it isn't better, and yours are not being punished when we help them. It's just silly to say they are. And we, people, have always handled hard time better when they come together than when they divide. You have alot wrong my friend. Sadly.
no one is saying that is not a problem
what is your answer for it?
let's solve that problem
in the meantime, let's also solve the very real problem that their are hungry children in school who are not getting proper nourishment. why are you so opposed to feeding hungry students born into poverty?
Dec.3 2010really? isn't this a child nutrition bill being discussed?
please explain for those of us unfamiliar with this, exactly how it works
no, when the matter of childrens' welfare is brought up, those on your side dodge that topic and try to make it something else again
YouTube - Kagan Declines To Say Gov't Has No Power to Tell Americans What To EatTo those for this program....
Do you honestly think people that love eating cheeseburgers and fries are going to magically stop eating that and start eating healthy? Do you really think they're going to feed their kids any differently? People KNOW what is healthy and what isn't. It's common sense. They CHOOSE to eat what they want.
You're not going to change the minds of people who LIKE eating unhealthy unless you somehow FORCE them to eat healthy which, of course, is completely anti-freedom. Surely that's not what you're implying....?