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Republicans block child nutrition bill

It's kinda ridiculous to spend a billion or more putting more veggies on a kid's plate at school when they don't eat them in the first place. The majority of kids I see at lunch (I'm a teacher) do not eat peas, carrots (unless they have ranch dressing with them), broccoli, etc. They'll just wait until they get home a couple hours later and eat some Cheetos.

It's a waste of money.
 
MissLToe said:
It's kinda ridiculous to spend a billion or more putting more veggies on a kid's plate at school when they don't eat them in the first place. The majority of kids I see at lunch (I'm a teacher) do not eat peas, carrots (unless they have ranch dressing with them), broccoli, etc. They'll just wait until they get home a couple hours later and eat some Cheetos.

It's a waste of money.
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So then you are failing to teach children about the benefits of healthy eating habits then? :(
 
JohnWOlin said:
So then you are failing to teach children about the benefits of healthy eating habits then? :(
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You can tell a kid until you're blue in the face that they should eat broccoli instead of Doritos, but they're gonna eat the Doritos. Are you around kids at all?
 
MissLToe said:
You can tell a kid until you're blue in the face that they should eat broccoli instead of Doritos, but they're gonna eat the Doritos. Are you around kids at all?
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Like 99% of the people on here I believe I am an expert at every subject I am discussing, all I am saying is you could do better.
 
JohnWOlin said:
Like 99% of the people on here I believe I am an expert at every subject I am discussing, all I am saying is you could do better.
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Get back to me when you spend time around kids in a school cafeteria.
 
MissLToe said:
Get back to me when you spend time around kids in a school cafeteria.
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So you are telling me there is no point in trying to suggest healthy habits so why do it in the first place? Do you let the fat kids sit around in gym and eat ice cream too?
 
JohnWOlin said:
So you are telling me there is no point in trying to suggest healthy habits so why do it in the first place? Do you let the fat kids sit around in gym and eat ice cream too?
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No. I'm all for teaching kids how to eat healthy. I'm NOT for spending billions of taxpayer dollars on programs to "encourage eating healthy" (you don't need to spend ANY money to do that). I'm all for healthier school lunches as well, but just know that the majority of kids are NOT going to eat most vegetables no matter what. I've seen kids eat absolutely nothing on their tray because they don't like any of it. They just wait a couple hours and eat when they get home. You cannot make a kid eat what he or she doesn't like.
 
JohnWOlin said:
So you are telling me there is no point in trying to suggest healthy habits so why do it in the first place? Do you let the fat kids sit around in gym and eat ice cream too?
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It isn't the government's job to tell us what to eat or drink. That's the parents job.
 
MissLToe said:
No. I'm all for teaching kids how to eat healthy. I'm NOT for spending billions of taxpayer dollars on programs to "encourage eating healthy" (you don't need to spend ANY money to do that). I'm all for healthier school lunches as well, but just know that the majority of kids are NOT going to eat most vegetables no matter what. I've seen kids eat absolutely nothing on their tray because they don't like any of it. They just wait a couple hours and eat when they get home. You cannot make a kid eat what he or she doesn't like.
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So then you let children go malnurtioned then? Ever thought of trying to make eating healthy fun? I don't know what grade children you are teaching but I bet you could do that if you had the time in the schedule.
 
Red Crow said:
It isn't the government's job to tell us what to eat or drink. That's the parents job.
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True that, but when a child goes to school a parent is putting trust in the educators that they will do what is right for the child. I see parents giving their children nothing but ramen, hot pockets, and little cans of vienna wieners all the time. If they don't learn healthy habits at home are you saying they are just ****ed?
 
JohnWOlin said:
True that, but when a child goes to school a parent is putting trust in the educators that they will do what is right for the child. I see parents giving their children nothing but ramen, hot pockets, and little cans of vienna wieners all the time. If they don't learn healthy habits at home are you saying they are just ****ed?
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Parents should pack a HEALTHY lunch for their kids. Make parents responsible for a change!!! If the government can't then it is what is is but the government should stay out of people's lives.
 
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Red Crow said:
Parents should pack a HEALTHY lunch for their kids. Make parents responsible for a change!!! If the government can't then it is what is is but the government should stay out of people's lives.
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if all parents were responsible to do this then there would be no problem to address

it is the children who are having to deal with the hunger and society deals with the negative effects of their malnutrition (poor academic achievement, health issues down stream)
 
Red Crow said:
Parents should pack a HEALTHY lunch for their kids. Make parents responsible for a change!!! If the government can't then it is what is is but the government should stay out of people's lives.
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Yeah and you see here lies the problem. You have to totally disregard what I just posted for this to actually be possible.
 
JohnWOlin said:
So then you let children go malnurtioned then? Ever thought of trying to make eating healthy fun? I don't know what grade children you are teaching but I bet you could do that if you had the time in the schedule.
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"Let children go malnurished"? What am I going to do, force broccoli down their throat at school and then follow them home and force brussel sprouts down their throat too? :doh

We do teach healthy eating in science. What more do you expect? Some people just don't want to eat healthy. Some people don't care to buy healthy food for their kids. You have to let it go.
 
JohnWOlin said:
Yeah and you see here lies the problem. You have to totally disregard what I just posted for this to actually be possible.
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Government is always the problem and always has a problem.
 
justabubba said:
if all parents were responsible to do this then there would be no problem to address

it is the children who are having to deal with the hunger and society deals with the negative effects of their malnutrition (poor academic achievement, health issues down stream)
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This is a democracy, if people choose to get fat.. that's their decision and the government should mind his own business. God and everybody knows that they have bigger fish to fry. Put people back to work and quit enforcing policies that cost money and never accomplish anything.
 
To those for this program....

Do you honestly think people that love eating cheeseburgers and fries are going to magically stop eating that and start eating healthy? Do you really think they're going to feed their kids any differently? People KNOW what is healthy and what isn't. It's common sense. They CHOOSE to eat what they want.

You're not going to change the minds of people who LIKE eating unhealthy unless you somehow FORCE them to eat healthy which, of course, is completely anti-freedom. Surely that's not what you're implying....?
 
Red Crow said:
This is a democracy, if people choose to get fat.. that's their decision and the government should mind his own business. God and everybody knows that they have bigger fish to fry. Put people back to work and quit enforcing policies that cost money and never accomplish anything.
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i agree, once folks reach the age of emancipation, then let them do to themselves whatever they want, as that is their right

but the state has sound reason to try to expose our kids to good eating habits. we see a disproportionate amount of disease in the poor community. much of that is caused by poor eating habits learned from parents with poor eating habits. that will be a health issue, the expense of which we will all incur
this is an attempt to break the cycle
kids who are raised on healthy diets acquire a taste for healthy foods
in my era there were soda machines in elementary school (6 cents a pop) and cigarette machines in the high school quad. would not surprise me if that contributed to our generation's inclination to drink lots of soda and smoke too many fags

now, color me dubious with regard to whether this bill is sound in all respects. i am guessing it has more than a little bloat and misdirection
but the intent, to develop a healthy society by exposing students to good foods, is a sound one
 
justabubba said:
i agree, once folks reach the age of emancipation, then let them do to themselves whatever they want, as that is their right

but the state has sound reason to try to expose our kids to good eating habits. we see a disproportionate amount of disease in the poor community. much of that is caused by poor eating habits learned from parents with poor eating habits. that will be a health issue, the expense of which we will all incur
this is an attempt to break the cycle
kids who are raised on healthy diets acquire a taste for healthy foods
in my era there were soda machines in elementary school (6 cents a pop) and cigarette machines in the high school quad. would not surprise me if that contributed to our generation's inclination to drink lots of soda and smoke too many fags

now, color me dubious with regard to whether this bill is sound in all respects. i am guessing it has more than a little bloat and misdirection
but the intent, to develop a healthy society by exposing students to good foods, is a sound one
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Why can the government create a program without costing the taxpayer money??? It again shows that the government is nothing but a consumer and never creates a program without involving money and Obama has spent it all already. Obama's policies cost money and don't solve anything.
 
So really the only answer I have been getting and EVEN FROM A TEACHER (shame on you) is **** THEM THAT'S WHY!
 
JohnWOlin said:
So really the only answer I have been getting and EVEN FROM A TEACHER (shame on you) is **** THEM THAT'S WHY!
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Let the government come up with an idea that won't cost us anything. Our government can't because they don't know how, a perfect example is our present economical situation and that's because the government again spent money to fix a problem that hasn't been fixed. We need a new president with brains and the right policies.
 
justabubba said:
i agree, once folks reach the age of emancipation, then let them do to themselves whatever they want, as that is their right

but the state has sound reason to try to expose our kids to good eating habits. we see a disproportionate amount of disease in the poor community. much of that is caused by poor eating habits learned from parents with poor eating habits. that will be a health issue, the expense of which we will all incur
this is an attempt to break the cycle
kids who are raised on healthy diets acquire a taste for healthy foods
in my era there were soda machines in elementary school (6 cents a pop) and cigarette machines in the high school quad. would not surprise me if that contributed to our generation's inclination to drink lots of soda and smoke too many fags

now, color me dubious with regard to whether this bill is sound in all respects. i am guessing it has more than a little bloat and misdirection
but the intent, to develop a healthy society by exposing students to good foods, is a sound one
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Students and young people are aware of what good foods are and are exposed to them but it's up to them to eat them and you can't force anybody to eat them, why?? because this is the USA and not Russia nor Nazi Germany.
 
Red Crow said:
Students and young people are aware of what good foods are and are exposed to them but it's up to them to eat them and you can't force anybody to eat them, why?? because this is the USA and not Russia nor Nazi Germany.
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if their parents buy and eat bad food in the home, and the kids have grown up with that poor diet, why would you insist they know which foods are healthiest for them
public schools should be able to expose the students to nutritious foods instead of the less healthy processed foods that have become typical fare
 
justabubba said:
if their parents buy and eat bad food in the home, and the kids have grown up with that poor diet, why would you insist they know which foods are healthiest for them
public schools should be able to expose the students to nutritious foods instead of the less healthy processed foods that have become typical fare
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Nobody is going to force people what to eat and we live in the 21st century where everybody is aware of which healthy foods are good for you, we don't live in the stone age.
 
Red Crow said:
Nobody is going to force people what to eat and we live in the 21st century where everybody is aware of which healthy foods are good for you, we don't live in the stone age.
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lol that's why parents are feeding their kids ramen and fruit roll ups then right?
 
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