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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The one from the US that I read was deleted, big surprise. But I did find an example from across the pond.



    Nice eh?

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    “The centre has a list of recommended healthy food, according to national guidelines, which children are encouraged to eat,” said a spokesman. “A cheese sandwich would not feature on the list.”


    When I say slippery slope, liberals laugh and say things like "nobody's making anybody do anything. They are just encouraging people to do the right thing"
    Well someone encouraged someone enough to confiscate a sandwich. Not for what was on it, but for what wasn't on it.
    Reminds me of of our new Justice Elana Kagan saying it's not unconstitutional for a law to tell you, you must eat your fruits and veggies.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Thank you. But see my point when governments get involved in over regulation....In the story I provided from England it is at the parental level, an intrusion on personal rights over here that I think we need to head off before it does become a problem.

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    Is anyone talking about the riots being something that could happen here, or is it, that could never happen here?
    England should be watched closely so we can learn from their mistakes.
    I can easily see food being taken away from kids because it doesn't meet the government guidelines.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Actually, I completely agree with having a work program in place for anyone receiving assistance. I think that the government could really benefit and be able to help even more people, if it would actually make those on welfare programs who aren't actually working or working enough hours a week, do a type of work trade program and/or community service and/or go to school. Those on welfare should still have to work at least 40 hours a week. One good way to work this would be to start a work trade program. Get some of those who are having a hard time finding work qualified to take care of children, then have those people watch the children of others on welfare who are having problems finding/affording childcare, which is hindering their job finding efforts. Have some of those on welfare with cars be rides for those who don't have transportation. Those who have trade skills could use those skills to actually do maintenance for others to count for some of their work hours. By making people actually have to work for their welfare, and making that work beneficial to others on welfare, the government would be getting much more for those dollars it spends on assistance programs.
    I agree completely. I think there is another advantage too. Many people really don't want to take handouts or charity but find themselves in situations where they need to. It tears down their self-esteem etc. This is a way they can earn the money and feel better about themselves, not worse.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    From your link-Arne's visionAnd so I -- my vision is that schools need to be community centers. Schools need to be open 12, 13, 14 hours a day six, seven days a week, 12 months out of the year, with a whole host of activities, particularly in disadvantaged communities.

    And when schools truly become centers of the community, where you have extraordinary teachers, the best teachers, the best principals, great nonprofit partners coming in during the non-school hours to support and do enrichment activities, social services, then those students will beat the odds, will beat poverty, will beat violence in the community, will beat sometimes dysfunctional families, and be productive citizens long term. They will go to college.

    And people call me crazy when I say they want to raise our kids from cradle to grave.

    Parents need to rise up and say enough is enough already
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    you can't have it both ways
    if you want to expose the kids of broken homes to positive, nurturing environments, then they must have an opportunity/time to thrive within those environs

    and if you don't want that attempt to reach, and turn kids around in their formative years, then you must accept - tho whining - that the kids raised by lousy parents have an increased risk of becoming lousy parents/irresponsible members of society

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Imagine what some radical vegan, PETA teacher would do with that authority? I wouldn't even be able to send my kids to school with an egg sandwich...
    Most schools won't let kids even bring my lunch of choice when I was a kid... a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I'd love to see an explanation of why peanut allergies suddenly sprang into such a problem suddenly in the past few years.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What about the story of the kid that brought his own lunch from home, and was told he couldn't eat it because it didn't conform to standards set in the school? I know that may be an isolated incident, however, we do have some liberals that are a little over zealous in their approach.

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    We can all find a story j. And we can agree that one instance is wrong. However, it takes more than one person at one place to make a treand, or to sugegst that the government is doing anything along those lines. You have a bad habit, as do most of the political entertainers and those who listen to them, of taking a single act and projecting it to a whole. That is not only dishonest, but ignorant.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you post a singular event from another country to hold up as opposition to the nutrition bill under consideration
    beyond ridiculous

    Wait a minute Bubba. Weren't you the one that asked me for an example? Now you don't like the example I provided so you dismiss it as only one? How many would you need to see to understand that it isn't the examples, it is the regulation that is the problem?

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Libs only want to talk globally when it fits their agenda.
    Is anyone talking about the riots being something that could happen here, or is it, that could never happen here?
    England should be watched closely so we can learn from their mistakes.
    I can easily see food being taken away from kids because it doesn't meet the government guidelines.

    I agree, however, we never seem to learn from the mistakes our European brethren make. Socialism, cradle to grave welfare, health care.... I like to think of Europe as the coming attractions section of global living.


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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wait a minute Bubba. Weren't you the one that asked me for an example? Now you don't like the example I provided so you dismiss it as only one? How many would you need to see to understand that it isn't the examples, it is the regulation that is the problem?

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    no, you proffered the example on your own
    i asked for a cite
    one you were unable to find
    which caused you to then offer an "example" which exemplifies nothing
    pity i have to explain your won posts to you
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Most schools won't let kids even bring my lunch of choice when I was a kid... a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I'd love to see an explanation of why peanut allergies suddenly sprang into such a problem suddenly in the past few years.
    I have never heard of this, but then again, I have been outside the States for more than eight years now... When the schools can do things like this, it really makes me question the sanity of the education profession... and I am a part of that profession...
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