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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    My point is pretty straight up. Liberals love to pretend about how much they care. This thread is a prime example. You 'care' about these poor starving children...so much that you are REALLY upset when all of a sudden it became an issue that republicans blocked a bill that would spend OTHER PEOPLES money on a problem. Ive been pretty specific about medicaid providers and behavioral health units. It would blow peoples minds if they knew how many people in their own county were being 'helped' (such a relative term).

    Thats the point. Throwing other peoples money at a problem doesnt FIX anything. It creates a greater problem. Doing FOR people creates MORE problems.

    That being said...I FULL ON support your right to put your money where your mouth is and VOLUNTARILY...out of YOUR pocket...your resources and your time actually ACT on all those causes.
    Oh, I do volunteer. And do put my money where my mouth is. Sometimes my legs, running ten miles this summer for a charity.

    But, no, you have not been specific enough. what you right above is general, and nothing we can really eximine. Show a specific example, one we cna look at closer.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Oh, I do volunteer. And do put my money where my mouth is. Sometimes my legs, running ten miles this summer for a charity.

    But, no, you have not been specific enough. what you right above is general, and nothing we can really eximine. Show a specific example, one we cna look at closer.
    Great...so you and others have been spending these last years combating the problem of those poor children by feeding them dinner year round...right? Its been SUCH an important issue that it was never brought up or discussed...just...you know...to keep it sacred. I THOUGHT that was you...because I have seen so MANY organizations doing just that very thing. They are EVERYWHERE. Right?

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Oh, I do volunteer. And do put my money where my mouth is. Sometimes my legs, running ten miles this summer for a charity.

    Might I suggest you man up for one of these?


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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Great...so you and others have been spending these last years combating the problem of those poor children by feeding them dinner year round...right? Its been SUCH an important issue that it was never brought up or discussed...just...you know...to keep it sacred. I THOUGHT that was you...because I have seen so MANY organizations doing just that very thing. They are EVERYWHERE. Right?
    Using government is one way we do this. Not the only way, but one way. We are the government and government often works for us to solve problems. And we do have representatives speaking for us, representing us.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Might I suggest you man up for one of these?


    the toughest one day endurance race on the planet - Tough Mudder


    I just did one, it's a blast, and it's for a good cause. Wounded Warrior Project.
    Looks like fun. Not much for mud, but I could get dirty for the cause.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Using government is one way we do this. Not the only way, but one way. We are the government and government often works for us to solve problems. And we do have representatives speaking for us, representing us.
    Because using government is SO efficient. It works SO well. And they have such a proven track record. And the services HELP so much. (yes...thats sarcasm).
    Hogwash.
    Liberals advocate government social programs so you can throw the burden and responsiblity on taxpayers...and specifically, higher income taxpayers. And its back to out of sight out of mind. And conveniently, it makes for GREAT election year rhetoric.

    Edit: I'll throw you a bone...Not ALL liberals...but I'll stick with 'many.'
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Because using government is SO efficient. It works SO well. And they have such a proven track record. And the services HELP so much. (yes...thats sarcasm).
    Hogwash.
    Liberals advocate government social programs so you can throw the burden and responsiblity on taxpayers...and specifically, higher income taxpayers. And its back to out of sight out of mind. And conveniently, it makes for GREAT election year rhetoric.
    Actually, overall, it is quite efficient. It has done many things for us since we became a country, and often doing a lot with less. mail has been delievered, people have been help in their old age. During the great depression, even baptist ministers asked that government come and aid people. So, while not perfect, and nothing really is, we've managed use government to do some really decent things in this country.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, overall, it is quite efficient. It has done many things for us since we became a country, and often doing a lot with less. mail has been delievered, people have been help in their old age. During the great depression, even baptist ministers asked that government come and aid people. So, while not perfect, and nothing really is, we've managed use government to do some really decent things in this country.
    right...we have a 14 trillion dollar debt, 9.8% active and 20+% real unemployment, expanding social services programs (driving some states to bankruptcy), because the government is so good at what it does. Medicare is abused. Medicaid is abused. The contract providers eat huge amounts of the services in 'administrative' costs.

    Because the government is efficient.

    Sorry...Im in a bit of a cynical mood today.

    Shut down about 70% of the fed. Pay off the debt. Let the states tax and provide social services as needed. Kill off as much as possible the abuses and beauracracy.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    right...we have a 14 trillion dollar debt, 9.8% active and 20+% real unemployment, expanding social services programs (driving some states to bankruptcy), because the government is so good at what it does. Medicare is abused. Medicaid is abused. The contract providers eat huge amounts of the services in 'administrative' costs.

    Because the government is efficient.

    Sorry...Im in a bit of a cynical mood today.

    Shut down about 70% of the fed. Pay off the debt. Let the states tax and provide social services as needed. Kill off as much as possible the abuses and beauracracy.
    Yes, we do have a large debt, as do many private companies. But we often do more than the mandate, and have made life pretty good in this country over all. And government has played a role in that. And while there is some validity in moving some things to states, states have to willing to take up the mantle, and some simply haven't been willing. It is a far more complicated situation often not being as easily fit into a simplistic ideaology.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, we do have a large debt, as do many private companies. But we often do more than the mandate, and have made life pretty good in this country over all. And government has played a role in that. And while there is some validity in moving some things to states, states have to willing to take up the mantle, and some simply haven't been willing. It is a far more complicated situation often not being as easily fit into a simplistic ideaology.
    Holy bat****...

    is that 10 letters?

    Im done with this thread...

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