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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I think my son and his family qualifes for free school meals. He teaches 8th grade science, got stiffed by the school board on raises the last 2 years, DJ's and coaches sports for extra money, his wife works part time, and one of his 3 kids has an inoperable brain tumor that has a substantial impact on their budget.
    They don't use the program, but I am pretty sure they qualify...
    so will my son and his family probably. they both work full time, too, and don't get food stamps. but some people insist on labeling as a matter of course.

    and i'm so sorry about your grandson.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    so will my son and his family probably. they both work full time, too, and don't get food stamps. but some people insist on labeling as a matter of course.

    and i'm so sorry about your grandson.
    thanks, actually a granddaughter, been on and off chemo, mostly on for almost 4 years, since just before she turned 7, and running out of chemo options. Radiation will probably be next if the next MRI shows new growth...
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    thanks, actually a granddaughter, been on and off chemo, mostly on for almost 4 years, since just before she turned 7, and running out of chemo options. Radiation will probably be next if the next MRI shows new growth...
    that must be very difficult. my grandson is 3 and i can't imagine. blessings.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I think my son and his family qualifes for free school meals. He teaches 8th grade science, got stiffed by the school board on raises the last 2 years, DJ's and coaches sports for extra money, his wife works part time, and one of his 3 kids has an inoperable brain tumor that has a substantial impact on their budget.
    They don't use the program, but I am pretty sure they qualify...
    My family always qualified for free or reduced lunch while I was in school, but we never got food stamps (I know that there was at least one time that my parents applied and were turned down). Both of my parents have either worked or been going to school or both most of my childhood (each had periods of <6 months when they had been laid off).

    I know that there are people out there who are stuggling, who just can't find the time or money or either to provide breakfast and/or lunch during the week for their children. And it is obvious that schools have figured out that not all parents can provide homemade lunches for their kids, since schools offer school lunch in the first place. The same thing is true for breakfast.

    Actually, it is kind of interesting that some people would consider receiving the free breakfast or even lunch a problem with the parent being "lazy", yet the kid's parents who buy the same breakfast or lunch from the school is never mentioned as neglectful. I bet there are far more students who are either buying their breakfast/lunch from the school or who are not eating at all, than there are students who are being provided breakfast and lunch at/from home.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    that must be very difficult. my grandson is 3 and i can't imagine. blessings.
    The first 6 months were hell, we didn't know what would kill her first, the tumor, or the treatment. But the doctors at Phoenix Children's Hospital found a better chemo regime and she actually kept most of her hair while keeping the tumor from growing any more. Later on, they stopped chemo to see what would happen, and she grew a new tumor but that one could be taken out. Huge scar and lots of staples across her head. A few months in rehab after that and she is almost back to what is normal for her.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    My family always qualified for free or reduced lunch while I was in school, but we never got food stamps (I know that there was at least one time that my parents applied and were turned down). Both of my parents have either worked or been going to school or both most of my childhood (each had periods of <6 months when they had been laid off).

    I know that there are people out there who are stuggling, who just can't find the time or money or either to provide breakfast and/or lunch during the week for their children. And it is obvious that schools have figured out that not all parents can provide homemade lunches for their kids, since schools offer school lunch in the first place. The same thing is true for breakfast.

    Actually, it is kind of interesting that some people would consider receiving the free breakfast or even lunch a problem with the parent being "lazy", yet the kid's parents who buy the same breakfast or lunch from the school is never mentioned as neglectful. I bet there are far more students who are either buying their breakfast/lunch from the school or who are not eating at all, than there are students who are being provided breakfast and lunch at/from home.
    Well, could it be that the reason you are able to make this observation is because you are only slightly conservative...
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

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    Well, could it be that you are able to make this observation is because you are only slightly conservative...
    Possibly. I believe that some conservatives do not consider the reality of those who need help, and only look at either worst cases or the pure economics. Numbers can only show so much. And those numbers cannot take into account greed or misfortune or even poor decisions. I want to hold people accountable for their actions, but not to the point where they or their children will starve. Especially if they are actually trying to get back on their feet. And I certainly understand that not everyone can be in the middle or upper income classes. There has to be a bottom.

    I guess I'm in the middle economically speaking. I don't think it is practical to do away with all government assistance, not in the world we live in today. But I also don't want to have people receiving assistance who are not willing to try to better themselves. The programs definitely need to be reformed, just not so drastically that they would cause people who are trying to get screwed when they need the help.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Possibly. I believe that some conservatives do not consider the reality of those who need help, and only look at either worst cases or the pure economics. Numbers can only show so much. And those numbers cannot take into account greed or misfortune or even poor decisions. I want to hold people accountable for their actions, but not to the point where they or their children will starve. Especially if they are actually trying to get back on their feet. And I certainly understand that not everyone can be in the middle or upper income classes. There has to be a bottom.

    I guess I'm in the middle economically speaking. I don't think it is practical to do away with all government assistance, not in the world we live in today. But I also don't want to have people receiving assistance who are not willing to try to better themselves. The programs definitely need to be reformed, just not so drastically that they would cause people who are trying to get screwed when they need the help.
    I think regular conservatives are more like you.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I want to hold people accountable for their actions, but not to the point where they or their children will starve. Especially if they are actually trying to get back on their feet.
    same here. only, I am not too concerned if someone starves due to poor choices he/she made. I guess I am jaded from my experiences of being a foster parent. In almost every single case, the kids were in state custody because the parents were either lazy or criminal. In the 7 years we did fostercare I saw exactly ONE case in which a child was taken from a home because the parent was truely UNABLE to care for him. (dad was in prison and mom had an IQ of 63, couldn't even take care of herself)

    I guess I'm in the middle economically speaking. I don't think it is practical to do away with all government assistance, not in the world we live in today. But I also don't want to have people receiving assistance who are not willing to try to better themselves. The programs definitely need to be reformed, just not so drastically that they would cause people who are trying to get screwed when they need the help.
    same here. I have absolutely no problem with helping someone who is down on their luck, through no fault of their own, get back on their feet. But I have seen too many families where living off the govt is a way of life passed down from generation to generation.
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