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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Well when I was a kid, if I didn't do something right the first time I was beat until I acted right but you can't do that anymore nor would I suggest it. I dunno honestly, like you said you do what you can, the government can only do so much, when it comes down to it, it becomes an issue out of both our hands, and an issue of we need to make healthy food cheaper, or show parents and others that healthy food is cheaper in the long run at least than the unhealthy alternative.
    I prefer not to go down the road of beating kids... not cool and I don't want to hit my girls for any reason... We teach our girls that healthy food is important for them to grow and that things like McDonald's are for occasional treats... my elder daughter's godfather is a doctor and he completely endorsed our view on this and talked to our girls about this as well (our girls both love him and his wife - so that helps) and we model that in our own lives. Also, my girls see me compete as an athlete and they want to do the same... they see the medals and trophies in my display case and they want to do the same... helps us to give another platform to drive home the importance of healthy eating and good nutrition. Though my girls are only 6 and 5, they know they have to eat fruit, veggies and lean, protein-rich meats along with their rice and bread... only occasional treats, and they are fine with that... kids will model their parents ACTIONS, not words...
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I prefer not to go down the road of beating kids... not cool and I don't want to hit my girls for any reason... We teach our girls that healthy food is important for them to grow and that things like McDonald's are for occasional treats... my elder daughter's godfather is a doctor and he completely endorsed our view on this and talked to our girls about this as well (our girls both love him and his wife - so that helps) and we model that in our own lives. Also, my girls see me compete as an athlete and they want to do the same... they see the medals and trophies in my display case and they want to do the same... helps us to give another platform to drive home the importance of healthy eating and good nutrition. Though my girls are only 6 and 5, they know they have to eat fruit, veggies and lean, protein-rich meats along with their rice and bread... only occasional treats, and they are fine with that... kids will model their parents ACTIONS, not words...
    Well that is excellent, it really is, but being a good parent and teaching good habits isn't the issue, it is the issue of the parents that don't, and the schools having the right choices in the first place.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Well that is excellent, it really is, but being a good parent and teaching good habits isn't the issue, it is the issue of the parents that don't, and the schools having the right choices in the first place.
    I don't mind the right choices being available in the schools, but I like to have CHOICES, not federal government dictates... I don't want to see the federal government continue to bloat in a way that was never intended... this is a state and local issue, NOT a federal one...
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I don't mind the right choices being available in the schools, but I like to have CHOICES, not federal government dictates... I don't want to see the federal government continue to bloat in a way that was never intended... this is a state and local issue, NOT a federal one...
    So says the one stationed in Taiwan, "I like to have choices, not government dictates." - Did you know that the government dictates and determines your food-choices that are available in the mess hall and your MRE's by a strict calorie-intake checklist? did you know that your estimated calorie intake is high enough to keep a chubby kid happy? . . yours is calculated based on your rigorous workload and is excessively high.

    The only time they don't care is when you eat fast food - because they know the calorie content is sufficient for your increased workload, and they profit.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    Attention John WOlin!!!!

    Look at our conversations, this is what I previously answered you:
    If the government was so interested in the kids health, THEY should be interested AGAINST abortion.
    Please take your time reading my statements. Liberals are baby killers since they support abortion. Thank God I am not a Liberal.

    Read and follow conversations, some of your questions have been answered already.
    A bit of a red herring. Different issue, and has nothing to do with this issue.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    That's not material. In reality the "wars" are Constitutional while the school lunches are not. So yes, we can pay for two "needless wars" but not to feed children.
    No, to the point, we're paying for NEEDLEES wars. Legality aside, needless was the key word. And paying for them the point. And I don't believe that helping feed children is in anyway unconsititutional. Please prove that.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Once again, this isn't about feeding children. The GOP wanted background checks of cafeteria workers included in the bill, and the Democrats said no, then started pissing and moaning that the Republicans wanted to starve the kids. Since it is the cafeteria workers who serve the food to the kids, including this provision in the bill is most relevant.

    This stunt by the Democrats was dishonest as hell from the very start.
    I'm not sure what it is about. Yes, there is this call to add background checks, which still seems like a separate issue to me. But many seem to be arguing not to have the bill pass either way. So, some consistency would be nice. And do keep in mind, when discussing the Bill with people here who say we should not feed children, then we are talking about feeding children.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, to the point, we're paying for NEEDLEES wars. Legality aside, needless was the key word. And paying for them the point. And I don't believe that helping feed children is in anyway unconsititutional. Please prove that.
    If we had spent less on turtle tunnels, cocaine habits in monkies, reparations and deer under-passes, spending this money on school lunches for welfare kids and unemployment extensions wouldn't be that big-a-deal.

    You can't piss money away on bull****, then turn around and demand more deficit spending, because, "it's for the children". Your side shoulda thought about that while they were authorizing money for the study of Alaskan grandparents.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    it really is a simple question, Boo, when will it be enough? just how much should we subsidize the standard of living for "the poor"
    That doesn't speak to the silliness. you're asking a separate question. But as for an answer, I don't know. Perhaps when the need is gone? Hard to say. But it is not evil to use government as a tool to tackle our problems. What I see is that those who spout the silliness seen in Grants post too often miss the point. We still have plenty og wealthy people in this country. No one is being pulled from the rolls of the wealthy. Our tax rates for the wealthy are no where near as high as they've been in the past, so the whining over doing small things is so exaggerated as to be pathetic.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If we had spent less on turtle tunnels, cocaine habits in monkies, reparations and deer under-passes, spending this money on school lunches for welfare kids and unemployment extensions wouldn't be that big-a-deal.

    You can't piss money away on bull****, then turn around and demand more deficit spending, because, "it's for the children". Your side shoulda thought about that while they were authorizing money for the study of Alaskan grandparents.

    Then argue not to do those things. Won't see any complaint from me. But we're not in a position where we can't help kids who need the help.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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