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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Silliness aside, yes, it is a fair issue and there is likley some concern. What do you think is required to speak on these issues?
    Ending a federal government nanny state that has dug the country into an unsustainable debt and created millions of dependent voters. Good place to start., Effect state and local service programs...where private donations arent swallowed by beauracracy. Teaching resilience, self sufficiency instead of victimhood. Expecting individual responsibility. Promoting concerned and caring citizen involvement with providing services...a really great place to start. Coordinating willing contributors with shelters, food banks, employment assistance agencies.

    All things my office and staff does daily. Things I do on my own daily.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Ending a federal government nanny state that has dug the country into an unsustainable debt and created millions of dependent voters. Good place to start., Effect state and local service programs...where private donations arent swallowed by beauracracy. Teaching resilience, self sufficiency instead of victimhood. Expecting individual responsibility. Promoting concerned and caring citizen involvement with providing services...a really great place to start. Coordinating willing contributors with shelters, food banks, employment assistance agencies.

    All things my office and staff does daily. Things I do on my own daily.
    You keep speaking in partisan nonsense language. "nanny state" and such mean very little. If you really stepped out, you might find people do the things you mention regularly, including people you have painted as lazy. You might also find that feeding children doesn't go against these values. By living in a bubble, seeing only a small portiion of the world, one too easily misses the larger picture. I belive that is what is happening in your world view.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You keep speaking in partisan nonsense language. "nanny state" and such mean very little. If you really stepped out, you might find people do the things you mention regularly, including people you have painted as lazy. You might also find that feeding children doesn't go against these values. By living in a bubble, seeing only a small portiion of the world, one too easily misses the larger picture. I belive that is what is happening in your world view.
    waaaaiiiittt a second...did YOU just use the word 'partisan'?

    Oh...and this is me LMAO at you for your interpretation of my world view...good lord...you havent clue one...my life...my experiences...my global experience, nor my current work and service. That you insinuate you do is beyond comical. That you imagine yourself...supporting policies that CREATE people that I and others work hard to UN**** every day...as being HELPFUL is tragic. But thanks for playing...
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    waaaaiiiittt a second...did YOU just use the word 'partisan'?

    Oh...and this is me LMAO at you for your interpretation of my world view...good lord...you havent clue one...my life...my experiences...my global experience, nor my current work and service. That you insinuate you do is beyond comical. That you imagine yourself...supporting policies that CREATE people that I and others work hard to UN**** every day...as being HELPFUL is tragic. But thanks for playing...
    sorry, but he nailed it
    at least that is the perception drawn from your posts
    but let's take this back to the fact that the republicans want to prevent the feeding of hungry students and see why they hold that position dear
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I've answered it before. you just don't like the answer or you missed/ignored it.

    better to "punish" their children now, than to punish their, mine, your, and our grandchildren tomorrow. that's why.

    mamby pamby, bleeding heart, hand wringing is not going to solve the problem. hard problems sometimes require hard solutions. and if it requires that some people suffer now so that all people don't suffer later, so be it.
    Oh - so ending some teens to college now has a negative effect on society? Prove it.

    Show me the horrible effects that decently-educated adults have on society, the economy and the world as a whole. Surely if you're arguing FOR it there's soem truth TO it.
    Are we so much more WORSE off because college is becoming more obtainable by the meanas of aid?

    Myself - how will I suffer?
    My kids - how will they suffer? (well - if you had your way they might suffer by being DENIED a well rounded education)

    What you don't want to admit is that YOU simply don't care for or value other people's children and the future of the entire country. Because that's what these kids will grow up to be. That's actually an common mindset that many people have so you're not alone.
    But how much is it HURTING YOU for, what, $.05 a month of your earnings to pay for everyone else's education?

    You know what I AM against spending our tax-money on?
    A pointless, meaningless, winnless war.
    Social Security and health coverage for people who have self-inflicted disabilities.
    Executing the wrongfully accused and the mentally ill.
    The corrupt nature of government Agencies and how they function.
    Congressmen and women who don't have our true needs at heart when they vote.
    Welfare abuse and waste.

    I can go on.

    The issue is that we're in a country which is based on US helping EVERYONE ELSE and also helping OURSELVES. There isn't a single thing in this country that does depend - in whole or in part - by what other people do in their daily lives to some degree.

    Education, to me, is SO IMPORTANT it's worth my .02
    If anything you should be pissed like so many others that college is such a necessity but so damned expensive - and that every year tuition goes up and up and up with no real legitimate reason. . . or that it costs more for an out-of-state students to attend than an in-state-student to attend - for no real, legitimate reason.

    You need to get in tune with reality and where our money really goes - it seems you're actually completely unaware of how the cookie even tastes, let alone crumbles.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    sorry, but he nailed it
    at least that is the perception drawn from your posts
    but let's take this back to the fact that the republicans want to prevent the feeding of hungry students and see why they hold that position dear
    OF COURSE you two perceive it that way...because YOU LOVE big government and social spending and think that actually HELPS. Let me ask you Mr Soup Kitchen Runner...have you observed the all too familiar phenomenon of MORE AND MORE dependent people out there? I have. Go to ANY BHU in the country. You LITERALLY believe that creating more and more social programs actually HELPS people? Thats comical...

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    waaaaiiiittt a second...did YOU just use the word 'partisan'?

    Oh...and this is me LMAO at you for your interpretation of my world view...good lord...you havent clue one...my life...my experiences...my global experience, nor my current work and service. That you insinuate you do is beyond comical. That you imagine yourself...supporting policies that CREATE people that I and others work hard to UN**** every day...as being HELPFUL is tragic. But thanks for playing...
    yes, I did. And you know, I never call republicans names. I almost never speak of them as a group being evil. I don't even use partisan phrases like "nanny state." I don't use moveon or American thinker, Oberman or Beck, the Nation or NRO. So, yes, i used the word partisan.

    I speak for myself. And yes, your language and argument does tell all of us something about your world view. And nowhere did I say I know what you do for a living. Nor do I suggest I know anything about your current work or service. Nothing I said suggests that at all. So, does this say something about your ability to comprehend?

    And policies don't create as you suggest. Perhaps you could clarify so I better understand what the hell you're talking about.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    yes, I did. And you know, I never call republicans names. I almost never speak of them as a group being evil. I don't even use partisan phrases like "nanny state." I don't use moveon or American thinker, Oberman or Beck, the Nation or NRO. So, yes, i used the word partisan.

    I speak for myself. And yes, your language and argument does tell all of us something about your world view. And nowhere did I say I know what you do for a living. Nor do I suggest I know anything about your current work or service. Nothing I said suggests that at all. So, does this say something about your ability to comprehend?

    And policies don't create as you suggest. Perhaps you could clarify so I better understand what the hell you're talking about.
    You walk, talk, and every post you make here BREATHES partisan.

    How better to describe what democrats are creating other than "nanny state"? Would you prefer socialist? Communist dictatorship? Your leaders believe in wealth redistribution, in massive social spending at the expense of the economy, jobs market etc. You never met someone elses dollar you didnt believe you had a right to spend because you know better. You are even now endorsing legislation that takes people who are ALREADY provided funding and then take away the responsibilty to execute that state and federally provided funding for the welfare of 'the children' they are supposed to be responsible for. You advocate now 'school' meal programs providing breakfast, lunch, and dinner, year round...even during the summer months when 'the children' arent in school. So...by all means...give me a better name for a government that cripples people and exploits their weakness and failings for political power. Give me a better name for a political ideology that believes it is the responsibility of the federal government to take care of other peoples children.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    You will just never learn...

    In Alaska...


    In Yellowstone...


    In Atlanta...


    ANYWHERE USA...


    Help? Sure. But thats not what is happening.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You walk, talk, and every post you make here BREATHES partisan.

    How better to describe what democrats are creating other than "nanny state"? Would you prefer socialist? Communist dictatorship? Your leaders believe in wealth redistribution, in massive social spending at the expense of the economy, jobs market etc. You never met someone elses dollar you didnt believe you had a right to spend because you know better. You are even now endorsing legislation that takes people who are ALREADY provided funding and then take away the responsibilty to execute that state and federally provided funding for the welfare of 'the children' they are supposed to be responsible for. You advocate now 'school' meal programs providing breakfast, lunch, and dinner, year round...even during the summer months when 'the children' arent in school. So...by all means...give me a better name for a government that cripples people and exploits their weakness and failings for political power. Give me a better name for a political ideology that believes it is the responsibility of the federal government to take care of other peoples children.
    No, it breaths my views. I lean left, but have voted republican (Grassley, Reagan, Dole). But there is no real socialism or nanny state. This is as much an exaggeration as saying republicans want to kill granny. The debate is really about where can we help , where shodl we help, and when can government be used by the people to help problem situations. There is no need to use wild misrepsentations. We do have children who are not cared for well. And they grow up to be problem adults. It benefits all of us if we lend a hand here and there. So while I doubt we can fix every problem, nor do I see any actually trying to, where possible, a little reasonable aid might make a difference for someone.

    And it is often beneficials to meet a need, and then start the education, the teaching how to fish as it were. If we're serious about such an education, then we ahve to start by meeting a few basic needs first.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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